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elisabeth westhead (62.254.64.15 - 62.254.64.15)
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I believe AN UAITHNE is a generic word for ancient Irish harp songs. And I understand that there were three types of song: suantrai, goltrai and geantrai.
I am interested in harp myths and would like help please
a) in pronouncing all four words
b) can anyone explain to me why suantrai is sometimes spelt suantri
Thank you! Liz

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Aonghus (62.77.191.130 - 62.77.191.130)
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 04:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post

An Uaithne was the name of the God of Music;
suantraí is a lullaby
goltraí a lament
geantraí a song of pleasure.

The answer to b) is it's wrong!

Hopefully somebody else will weigh in with pronunciations - I don't do them.

However, there is an Irish group who originally called themselves an Uaithne, but changed there name to Anúna to cater for english speakers - that will give you an idea of the correct pronunciation. (Eithne Ní Bhraonáin - Enya - did the same)

There is some information here: but I won't vouch for the accuracy..
http://www.druidry.org/obod/healing/harphealing1.htm

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Aonghus (62.77.191.130 - 62.77.191.130)
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post


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sara (24.60.45.11 - 24.60.45.11)
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Hello I have a question?
How do you write the name Nora or mother?

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Pádraig (4.152.0.6 - 4.152.0.6)
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I believe Nora is Nora.

Mother = máthair

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Aonghus (62.77.191.130 - 62.77.191.130)
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 04:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post

By the way, the second link I gave has audio in Irish and Scots Gaelic for the three terms.

http://www.clarsach.net/Irish_Terms/56.htm

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PAD (12.75.180.112 - 12.75.180.112)
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Nora is Nóra.

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Tomás (198.22.236.230 - 198.22.236.230)
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post

SOO-un-tree
GOL-tree
GyAAHN-tree

Roll the 'r's slightly and that's a pretty good approximation for a speaker of North American English - Standard Dialect.

Tomás

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