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Geabhan (
Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Dia duit

While scanning through the sites on the web looking for new sources of information to learn Irish I stummbled on a site talking about a new Irish Home Tutor course designed (or rather being designed) by a person by the name of Ron Crow.

The site mentioned that it was a new method for learning Irish. I am interested in knowing more about it. I have tried to contact Mr. Crow as it says to do on the sites, but I am not for sure if my mail is being received. So, I thought I would ask anyone here if they know anything about it because this site has been referenced with high regard on all the sites concerning the Home Tutor.

Can someone here help me?



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Fintan ( -
Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A Gheabhan a chara,
Just visited the site, the last update was May 13, 2001, so I guess Ron may be a bit hard to contact, or maybe has gone out of business, or just doesn't update his website very often.

As for the course itself, I haven't seen it or heard any feedback regarding it. BUT, if you click on the thread further down this list called 'Cúrsa Nua/New Irish Course', you will find info on an EXCELLENT new resource for home study.

Ádh mór ort féin,

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geabhan (
Posted on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Thanks I got a letter from him today. He says that the first and second book are on sale now, but you have to go through him to get them. Also, the third will be out in September he hopes. There are two more books to go.

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Manus H. ODonnell ( -
Posted on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

As the delighted owner of Ron Crow's Book 1, and his "Twice Three-Twenties of Irish Verbs," I am most happy to reply to the question about the materials. Physically the books are excellent: 8 1/2" x 11" and they do lie flat. Presentation is interesting, includes a reading, a helpful vocabulary, with notes and hints, plus interesting notes on vocabulary, culture, and pronounciation. "Twice Three Twenties" is more useful for verbs for a beginner than would be a dictionary , because it gives full declensions, has a note on each verb (one to a page,) Notes are excellent, humorous, interesting, insightful, and philosophical.

i.e."Feach is closely related in meaning and sound to Feic:see. Feach can be used by English speaking learners of Irish to make the differentiation that English has between look and see. In both languages that difference can be a slight one. etc.etc. " (sorry about the fadas)

Includes clear delineation of both verbal noun and verbal adjective as apppropriate. Even the index of Irish verbs, has some "neat" innovations. besides listing the Irish verbs, and English translations, the "verb group" and page on which found in the text are also listed.
To conclude: Ron introduces a new method of conjugating the verbs,wherein each is laid out in a verb tree, which in effect is conjugation by person, instead of the traditional conjugation by tense. The tree helps to visualize the relationships. i.e. "all first person forms are on the first branch,' all second etc. Believe me, these are worth looking into. I am in the large group of those who have learned a little Irish and struggle to learn more. Note: I am NOT related to Mr. Crow, and have not yet met him. His books are excellent; clearly a labor of love infused with genius.

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James ( -
Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post

A Chairde,

Could someone please provide contact info? I'd be very interested in the "Twice Three Twenties" verb book. It sounds very user-friendly.

A Mhanus,

If you could give me the ISBN number (should be found on the first page or two in the book) perhaps I could order it from a local book shop.

Go raibh maith agaibh,

Le meas,


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