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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 11345 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 08:10 am: | |
Scéal san Irish Times inniu http://www.gaelport.com/sonrai-nuachta?NewsItemID=5555 quote:“The experience of language shift in the 19th century was a remarkably painful experience,” [Peadar Kirby] said. “This is a point which has not been acknowledged, but which affected us deeply. Contrast our sense of confidence and creativity with Scandinavian countries which held on to their languages,” he said. “Walsh’s book adopts a rigorous social scientific approach to interrogating this claim, contributing important insights not only to debates about Ireland’s future development but also to international debates about culture and development,” the professor told those attending the launch. |
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Brídmhór
Member Username: Brídmhór
Post Number: 132 Registered: 04-2009
| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 08:18 am: | |
The Swedes didn't have invading colonists trying to kill their language. |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 11346 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 08:39 am: | |
Ach bhí ag na hIoruaigh agus na Fionlannaigh. Gan trácht ar na Seicigh, Sloiveinigh, na tíortha ar fad a bhí fé anáil na hOstaire. Agus muid fhéin a thréig an Ghaeilge, pé scéal é. |
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Jeaicín
Member Username: Jeaicín
Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2011
| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 08:55 am: | |
The poem "An Droimeann Donn Dilis" illustrates the social divide from 1601 onwards: Níl fearann, níl tíos agam, fíonta ná ceol, Níl flatha do mo choimhdeacht níl saoithe ná sló, Ach ag síor-ól an uisce go minic sa ló, Agus beathuisce agus fíon ag mo naimhdibh ar bord. The cultured aristocratic Gaelic bards (filí) were reduced to labourers and spailpíní unable to speak the new language, English, their talent, and Gaelic learning rejected, while their conquerors lived the high life: "a painful experience indeed". And the "shift" is not yet complete. |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 11348 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 08:56 am: | |
quote:And the "shift" is not yet complete. Mar sin, is fiú troid. |
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Seánw
Member Username: Seánw
Post Number: 1037 Registered: 07-2009
| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 03:51 pm: | |
quote:“The experience of language shift in the 19th century was a remarkably painful experience,” he said. “This is a point which has not been acknowledged, but which affected us deeply. Dáirire? Shíl mé gur cuid de ghluaiseacht na Gaeilge an admháil seo. quote:Dr Walsh was appointed as a Fulbright Irish Language Scholar in 2009, and he subsequently spent six months engaged in researching the subject matter of the book at the University of California, Santa Cruz, in the United States. Ah, an tUasal Santa Cruz na Gréine! I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin. |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3818 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 05:06 pm: | |
quote:The Swedes didn't have invading colonists trying to kill their language. Go direach an rud a bhi ar intinn agam a scriobh nuair a léigh mé an chéad teachtaireacht... Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/ |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 11351 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2011 - 03:51 am: | |
quote:Shíl mé gur cuid de ghluaiseacht na Gaeilge an admháil seo. Is ea. Ach ní admhaítear lasmuigh de ghluaiseacht na Gaeilge é. Maidir le ceist Rialtas Shasana agus an Ghaeilge, níl sé baileach chomh simplí sin. Ní raibh géarleanúint fíochmhar ann san 19ú céad: ach sin an tréimhse ar thosaigh an tréigean. Nod libh gur roimh an Ghorta - thart ar 1820 a thosaigh sin. |
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Jeaicín
Member Username: Jeaicín
Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2011 - 10:03 am: | |
Nuair a cuireadh na scoileanna "náisiúnta" ar bun? 1826? |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 11357 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2011 - 10:34 am: | |
Bhí tionchar aige sin air cinnte, ach bhí an meath ann roimhe. |
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