Are tafaint and tathant the same word?

tafnaim, vn. tafann - hunt, chase, urge
tathantuighim, vn. tathant - urge

Tafaint: presumably this is from tafann and I found this:
* Séadna: " é féin agá thafaint air Máire a phósadh"

Tathant: I found these:
* Séadna: "thugadar deoch eile d’fhíon an rí dhó agus bhíodar ag tathant air choíche go dtí go mb’éigean dó géilleadh"
* Séadna: "dá mbeinn ina chás ní sheinnfinn an ceol san pé tathant a déanfaí orm chuige"
* Niamh: "ar ball do deineadh tathant ar Chaoilte dul isteach"

IWM section 376 says: tafann> tahant /tɑhənt/. Does that mean they are the sane and that the pronunciation is always with a broad ending (never tafaint or tahaint)? Shán Ó Cuív's simplified spelling Séadna has "thafaint", as if the f is an an f, and the final nt is slender.

I think these are the same word? But they are separate words in Ó Dónaill's dictionary, adding to the confusion...

Have you looked at DIL? They may well be of one and the same root which has split into two forms. It wouldn't be the first time such a thing as happened in the Irish language. As for f vs. th, you will have noticed how f has become /h/ in many words: anfa, foirfe, caithfead, etc.

In Corca Dhuibhne, examples of verbs splitting into two forms:

socraigh: 1) arrange, repair, vn. socrú
2) repair, fix, mend, vn. socairt

Preterite 1) shocraigh
2) shocair

oir: 1)oireann = suits
rúnaíonn (

Sorry:

rúnaíonn (from oiriúnach) = fits

(Message edited by carmanach on November 25, 2010)