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Sineadw
Member Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 384 Registered: 06-2009
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 01:34 pm: |
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The Christian Brothers say that when an indefinite noun that is qualified in some way follows on a verbal noun, the indefinite noun (obair)actually stays in the nominative = ag déanamh obair mhaith. whereas if the indefinite noun was not qualified, it would stay in genitive as is the rule following verbal nouns = ag déanamh oibre. I'm okay with those rules re. verbal nouns, but then I assumed this same rule would apply to the compound prepositions also. But instead I am seeing the genitive used even when the indefinite noun is qualified. Here are two examples I came across lately = in araíocht ruda eile = go ceann scaithimh fhada Is this the case? I really expected to see 'ruda' and 'scaithimh' in their nominative forms 'rud' and 'scaitheamh' |
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Seánw
Member Username: Seánw
Post Number: 610 Registered: 07-2009
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 06:14 pm: |
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Yes it is, barring any action in the multiple genitives rule. To tell you the truth, I have no idea historically why the nominative form comes into play when there is a indefinite noun with an attributive adjective. Maybe it was a separate form which melded with the nominative over time, and everyone forgot the roots. But the two processes are separate. I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.
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Sineadw
Member Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 385 Registered: 06-2009
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 06:33 pm: |
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Thanks Sean, glad to know this for sure as it comes up a good bit. |
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