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Rogue9772
Member Username: Rogue9772
Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2010
| Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 12:52 pm: |
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You'll have to forgive me, Tuigim beagán Gaeilge, ach tá ma ag foghlaim Gaeilge. I am using the Micheal O’Siadhail text and audio and I tend to have Raidió na Gaeltachta on the computer during the day, I also listen to the podcasts. From what little I can deduce, the dialect on the radio isn't always that used in the books...is it a matter of the host's own dialect? Does R na G have a set dialect they try to adhere to? Go raibh maith agat, Proinsias |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3365 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 02:00 pm: |
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quote:the dialect on the radio isn't always that used in the books...is it a matter of the host's own dialect? Does R na G have a set dialect they try to adhere to? Thanks God, in RnaG, people use their own dialect. Anyway, only some learners speak Standard Irish. Native speakers don't. The variety of dialects is what makes Irish interesting. If everybody spoke the same way, it'd be boring and the language would be poorer. Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
Member Username: Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
Post Number: 805 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 02:03 pm: |
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It's probably more a matter of the author's own dialect. Learning Irish teaches specifically the dialect of Cois Fhairrge in Co. Galway. This diverges in many important respects from other Connemara dialects, much less the Irish of Connacht in general (the primary basis for Standard Irish). |
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Seánw
Member Username: Seánw
Post Number: 418 Registered: 07-2009
| Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 02:42 pm: |
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quote:... is it a matter of the host's own dialect? Yes. You'll find a variety, and many times you can tell from the place it's broadcasterd from, or from the speakers themselves (how they talk, what they talk about, etc.). Even on a single show, the guest might be from another area, or a well known personality might be a second language learner. While I concentrate on learning from some specific sources, I try to listen to a variety of speakers to train my ear to communicate with people from all walks of life. I think part of learning a regional form, is also knowing what makes the regional form unique in comparison to forms in other areas (or what is common). If you click into one of the show categories on the left side (nuacht, caint, etc.), generally you'll get more information about the area it represents. www.rte.ie/rnag/ Example under Nuacht: Ar Siúl/When: Luan - Aoine ag 1pm / Mon - Fri at 1pm Láithreoir: Máirín Ní Ghadhra Léiritheoir: Gormfhlaith Ní Thuairisg Teagmháil/Contact: Seomra Nuachta, RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta, Casla. Co. na Gaillimhe Tel: 091 506625 Facs/Fax: 091 506688 Rphost/Email: I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 01:13 pm: |
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No. RnaG broadcasts from all the Irish-speaking areas, and illustrates all the dialects. If you are looking for a particular dialect, you could look for particular programmes. If you are reading MOS' book, you should be fine with these: http://www.rte.ie/rnag/ardtrathnona.html http://www.rte.ie/rnag/irisaniar.html News at 1 also seems to be broadcast from Galway: http://www.rte.ie/rnag/nuachtahaon.html |
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Danny2007
Member Username: Danny2007
Post Number: 518 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 05:19 pm: |
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Is every Gaeltacht represented on RnaG? For example, are there shows hosted from studios in Gaeltacht na Rinne or Ráth Chairn or Múscraí? I've seen the studio in Baile na nGall (west Kerry) and obviously Conamara and Tír Chonaill are well represented. When writing your messages, please use the same courtesy that you would show when speaking face-to-face with someone. - Daltaí.com
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 9641 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 05:24 pm: |
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quote:For example, are there shows hosted from studios in Gaeltacht na Rinne or Ráth Chairn or Múscraí? Occasionally, but the regular programmes come from Baile na nGall, Casla or Doirí Beaga. I have a feeling there is a studio in Castlebar which covers Mayo, http://www.rte.ie/rnag/igceartlarnandaoine.html And a number of programmes come from Dublin. http://www.rte.ie/rnag/gloranoir.html I don't think there are permanent studios in the other places. |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 9642 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 05:26 pm: |
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The information programme "Fógraí an Lae" covers pretty much everywhere, so they all get at least that much of a look in, but often by phone: http://www.rte.ie/rnag/fograianlae.html |
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Rogue9772
Member Username: Rogue9772
Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2010
| Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 10:30 pm: |
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Go raibh maith agaibh! I'm not interested in leaning one dialect over another, but I want to be fairly sure that when I listen to someone speaking any flavor of Irish that I can generally comprehend them. I know I've heard with other languages (even Spanish) that dialects can vary so much that some speakers can't easily be understood by others. I'll try to post more as Ghaeilge as I go theough the lessons. Proinsias |
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Sineadw
Member Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 170 Registered: 06-2009
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 06:50 am: |
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Hi Rogue9772! Best of luck with your learning. I hope it becomes addictive :) When I first went back to Irish a few years after leaving school, I didn't know anything about the differences between the dialects, but I was the same as you and wanted to know what dialects I was listening to! I emailed RnaG themselves to find out about a specific speaker, so that was a help. If you're ever in doubt you can ask here of course or go down through the schedule on RnaG's website and find their name and then google! |
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