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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2009 (May-June) » Archive through May 01, 2009 » In bhur nó i bhur « Previous Next »

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Esther
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Username: Esther

Post Number: 27
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 12:59 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In Irish class we had a debate whether to use 'in bhur gcónaí/ in bhur seasamh' or i bhur gcónaí/ i bhur seasamh' The grammarbooks and the internet couldn't enlighten us. Are both ways correct? If not why is one right and the other not?

Is there perhaps someone on the forum to help?

Go raibh maith agaibh

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Username: Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg

Post Number: 515
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 01:20 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In bhur is found in the Christian Brothers' grammar, i.e. "Scríobhtar in i gcorrchás eile: in bhur; in dhá áit, in b, in c; in Cré na Cille, etc." (22.2). That's probably as close as you can get to an official word on the subject.

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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 2817
Registered: 01-2005


Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 02:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Actually, although you write bhur in the Standard, I guess very few native speakers would use it as "bhur" (maybe in Muskerry?).
Normally :

Ulster: mur
Connemara: a
Munster: úr.

in your:
Ulster: i mur, in mur or 'n mur
Connemara : ina
Munster: inúr

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Username: Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg

Post Number: 516
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 02:33 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go bhfios dom, /u:r/ is the usual form in Muskerry as well.
Dá mbeinn ag scríobh i nglan-chanúint, as inúr a bhainfinn feidhm.



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