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James_murphy
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Username: James_murphy
Post Number: 205
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 12:42 pm: |   
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I was looking up a few things on Focal.ie today and on a whim entered "plutocracy".
Instead of the expected "maoinlathas"/"maoinfhlaitheas" the sole result was "plútacratachas".
Now to be fair, as a transliteration this was fine (I wouldn't have been surprised to find some monstrosity like "plútácrasaí") but I was disappointed that a perfectly useful translation like "maoinfhlaitheas" which - (1) shows the full potential of the flexibility and richness of Irish, (2) would make sense to an Irish speaker who was unaware of the meaning of the word "plutocracy" and (3) is in accord with other similar terms like "daonfhlaitheas" and "uathfhlaitheas" - wasn't even given as an alternate form.
The focus of those responsible for developing Irish terminology seems to be overly directed towards simply transliterating the Latin-based vocabulary of English rather than making use of the great virtues of Irish.
Séamus Ó Murċaḋa
Go mBeannuiġe Dia Éire Naoṁṫa!
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 4355
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 02:19 pm: |
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quote:Éire Naomhtha Cén áit go díreach a bhfuil an tír sin?
"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 7875
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 02:43 pm: |
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Tá an dá leagan ag de Bhaldraithe. B'fhiú scríobh chuig seachas clamhsán anseo! Bíonn an Coiste Téarmaíochta sásta athmhachnamh a dhéanamh, agus gach seans go mbeadh an féidireacht ag foireann focal an leagan eile a chuir isteach ó tharla é ag de Bhaldraithe. |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 7877
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 03:04 pm: |
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Nó b'fhéidir díreach chuig an gcoiste, nó chucu araon http://www.irish.ie/foras/default.asp?catid=50 Feicim go bhfuil an ghnáth easpa forais faoin bhForas - ní luaitear focal.ie ar an suíomh úd |
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James_murphy
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Username: James_murphy
Post Number: 206
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 04:58 pm: |
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quote:B'fhiú scríobh chuig seachas clamhsán anseo! Is eagal liom go mbeinn ag caitheamh mo chuid ama amugha. Má táid cosmhail le daoine áirithe annseo ní thabharfaí aird ar bith do thuairim fhoghlaimeora ísil.
Séamus Ó Murċaḋa
Go mBeannuiġe Dia Éire Naoṁṫa!
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 7878
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 05:01 pm: |
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Ach nílid!
Má tá argóint le déanamh agat - agus tá, agus de Bhaldraithe ar do thaobh - is dóigh liom go gcuirfear san áireamh ar a laghad é.
Pé scéal é, bheadh r-phost scríofa chomh gasta céanna agat agus mír anseo. |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 7879
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 05:03 pm: |
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James_murphy
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Username: James_murphy
Post Number: 207
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 06:16 pm: |
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Níl a fhios agam cén fáth ach do ghlacas le do chomhairle, a Aonghuis.
Sheolas r-phost gearr dhóibh.
Tá amhras orm go dtiocfaidh a lán as.
Séamus Ó Murċaḋa
Go mBeannuiġe Dia Éire Naoṁṫa!
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 7883
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 03:20 pm: |
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Níor tógadh an Róimh in aon lá amháin! |
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Ismiseséamus
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Username: Ismiseséamus
Post Number: 14
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 06:47 am: |
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I was presented with the term "meitacognaíocht" for metacognition, by the experts (even though the english word has only been in use for 30 years).
But "Lateral Thinking" got them stumped. That term is 50 years old but no translation yet. About the most satisfactory so far is "Smaointeoireacht cliathánach"!
any suggestions? |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 7892
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 08:37 am: |
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Cad tá cearr le smaointeoireacht cliathánach? B'fhearr liom "Machnamh", áfach. The translation process is demand driven.
Focal has taobhsmaointeoireacht http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=taobhsmaointeoireacht&lang=2 |
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James_murphy
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Username: James_murphy
Post Number: 208
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 11:41 am: |
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Fuaireas freagra uatha inniu.
Seolfar mo theachtaireacht chun an Choiste Téarmaíochta.
Séamus Ó Murċaḋa
Go mBeannuiġe Dia Éire Naoṁṫa!
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 7903
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 04:43 pm: |
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Maith thú. Tá an cheist ar an liosta anois ar a laghad! |
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