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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2008 (November-December) » Archive through November 04, 2008 » A command as Gaeilge « Previous Next »

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Skii30
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 05:48 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I want to give a command as Gaeilge

"Do/ Make a picture of a witch".
"Do/ make a picture of an apple
Is it

Déan pictiúr den chailleach
Déan pictur den úlla

Go raibh maith agat

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Abigail
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Post Number: 876
Registered: 06-2006


Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 05:50 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"de chailleach" agus "d'úll" a déarfainn - ach tá dul an ordaithe go paiteanta agat, bail ó Dhia ort!

Tá fáilte roimh chuile cheartú!

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 2536
Registered: 01-2005


Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 06:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Aye, because "den chailleach" = of the witch ; "den úll" = of the apple.
There is no indefinite article in Irish, so no "a" : a witch is "cailleach".

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Peter
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Post Number: 561
Registered: 01-2006


Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 09:21 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Déarfainn féin gur ceadmhach an t-alt a chur isteach sna habairtí thuas mar gheall ar an gciall “generic” a bhaineanns le cailleach agus úlla anseo.

“Níl (nó tá?) an t-Éireannach leisciúil” a bhí ag Micheál Ó Siadhail agus é ag tabhairt míniú ar an gcás seo.

'Na trí rud is deacra a thoghadh – bean, speal agus rásúr'

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Kelly_d
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 01:57 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I understand your point, Peter, but using "an" would lead me to believe that he's referring to a specific witch/apple (the witch in the corner/the apple in the basket)?

Also, I assume the command is to one person only for nobody has mentioned using "Déanigí" for Do/Make to more than one (for learners who may not know this).

Slán

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Username: Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg

Post Number: 288
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 02:20 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Déanaigí"

As I mentioned in this thread, I'm seeing this error often from speakers who mother tongue is (presumably) a variety of English without a grammaticalised second-person plural.

(Message edited by Domhnaillín_Breac_na_dTruslóg on October 21, 2008)

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Kelly_d
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 02:38 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

D - I typed it correctly first, then editted the h*ll out my response. Guess I didn't proofread it close enough! I grammaticalise my students to death, they'd testify.



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