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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2008 (November-December) » Archive through November 04, 2008 » Ownership with the copula « Previous Next »

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Bearn
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Username: Bearn

Post Number: 801
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 11:33 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

This is my house:

Is é sin mo theach /is é sin mo theach agamsa

Thanks

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Post Number: 281
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 11:51 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ownership or possession? To express ownership, you use le, e.g. Is liom an teach sin.

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Bearn
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Username: Bearn

Post Number: 804
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 12:00 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I know the le/ownership, ag/possession circuit, but what threw me was in 'Progress in Irish' page 69 at the bottom where it says:

Is that you house?

'An é sin do theach?' might be expected from the material thus far, but I'm not so sure

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Dennis
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Post Number: 4194
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 12:04 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Absolute, legal ownership: Is liom(sa) an teach seo. = This house belongs to me.

a) Seo é mo theach. = This (here) is my house (pointing to it among others on the street, on in a photo).

b) Is é seo mo theach. = This (one) is my house.

Déanta na fírinne, ní dóigh liom go bhfuil aon difríocht shuntasach idir (a) agus (b)!

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Bearn
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Post Number: 806
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 12:10 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

GRMA, a Dhonnacha

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Tomás_Ó_hÉilidhe
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 05-2008


Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 12:55 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dhennis a chara, luaigh tú rud éigin a bhí do mo chrá le tamall fada! Tóg an abairt seo:

Is é Seán an fear

Agus an ceann so:

Is fear é Seán

Sa chéad cheann is é "the man" atá againn agus sa dara ceann is é "a man".

Ach nuair a bhítear ag úsáid seo/sin, feicim go ndeir daoine:

Seo úll = This is an apple
Seo é an t-úll = This is the apple

An fíor go ndeir cainteoirí dúchais "Seo úll"? Cheapas go mb'oiriúnach go ndeiridís "Úll é seo" ina ionad.

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Dennis
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Post Number: 4199
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 09:10 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

Is fear é Seán.

Is fear Seán ceart freisin, dála an scéil.
quote:

An fíor go ndeir cainteoirí dúchais "Seo úll"?

Bhuel, dúirt an file Ó Searcaigh "Sin clabar!" i ndán amháin, más maith mo chuimhne. A athair a bhí ag caint leis an bhfile, agus é ina ghasúr, sa dán sin.

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."




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