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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2008 (September-October) » Archive through September 03, 2008 » Where Phrases Go? « Previous Next »

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Sieirál
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Username: Sieirál

Post Number: 56
Registered: 01-2008


Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 04:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

When you have a sentence like:

Chaith tú an leabhar.

If you wanted to add "agaim" to it, where would it go?

Is it going to go after the pronoun or subject of the sentence and before the book? Like this?

Chaith tú agam an leabhar.

or

Chaith tú an leabhar agam.

Which would be more correct?

Go raibh maith agaibh.
Sieirál

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 04:27 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Is it "You threw the book I have" or "You threw the book at me"? In the latter case, it would be "Chaith tú an leabhar liom."

Edit: Regardless, you should find answers to your questions about word order on this page. In general, nominal direct objects precede all pronominal objects and phrases.

(Message edited by Domhnaillín_Breac_na_dTruslóg on August 21, 2008)

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 7413
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 04:40 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

The sentence is a bit odd, but

Chaith tú agam an leabhar

in the sense

You threw the book to me (as opposed to at me)

is possible.

So is

Chaith tú an leabhar agam.

They differ in emphasis.

However, I should mention that "Caith chugam an leabhar" would be more usual.

(Message edited by aonghus on August 21, 2008)

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Sieirál
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Post Number: 57
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 04:44 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agait, a Dhomhnaillín. Is é sin go cuidiúil! :)
Bhí mé ag rá, "You threw the book at me." Tá fhios agam anois a usaid "le" leis sin.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 7414
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 05:00 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I hope you don't mind correction
(please let me know if you do)

Is é Tá sé sin go cuidiúil! :

Tá fhios agam anois [gur cheart] "le" a úsáid chuige sin.

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Sieirál
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Post Number: 58
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 01:31 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Is maith é, a Aonghuis. :) Go raibh maith agat!

Aon Ceist amháin...

Why is "chuige" better to use than "leis", or is "leis" too redundant?

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 7425
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It depends on what you meant.

chuige means (in the context above) "for that purpose"
leis means (again, is the context above) "in conjunction with that"



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