Tá ceist agam. Cad chuige an ndeir siad atá duine a rugadh ar an Chincís beidh mí-ádh agat? Nach Cincís ceilúiradh sona?

Pisreog!

Tá sé ag Dinneen, ach níor chuala mé áit ar bith eile é. Is mó rud aisteach atá ag Dinneen.

You might hear a parent mention that old people (in the past they knew) were full of 'pishrogs' (superstition)

An pisreog nó piseog é?

sílim nár chuala mé ach 'pishrog', ach creidim go bhfuil focal eile is ainm 'piseog'

Ó'Dónaill's gives both piseog and pisreog with the same meaning.

Pisreog!

A, go maith. Bhí a fhios atá piseog agam, ach ba mhaith liom tuiscint -- cad é an bunús an piseoige?

Deireann an foclóir (Ó Dónaill) 1. Charm, spell 2. Superstitious practices, superstition

Agus an seanfhellow (Dinneen): witchcraft, sorcery ; a charm, a spell ; lucht pisreog wizards, diviners; pisreoga, pl., superstitious acts, witchcraft; pisreoga were chiefly directed to obtaining cures of man and beast and to conserving and increasing farm products such as butter, milk, young stock, etc.; they were mainly of four kinds -(A) protective from witchcraft; (B) seeking increase through certain practices savouring of witchcraft ; of (a) an example is not allowing fire to leave the house while butter was been churned; of (b) the putting of a cow's broghais of ''cleaning'' under the milk-keelers set to throw up cream ; a third class (C) included love-charms which are obscure ; a fourth class (D) concerning itself with the human person, how to ward off and to cure diseases, etc., al. how to inflict injuries on others; the practice of spitting upon (etc.) or calling an opprobrious name to a fine baby (etc.) to ward off the evil eye is found in Bombay, as a form of the butter stealing process (See deatach) and the device called snaidhm (or cleas) na péiste.

Also: pisreog -a bream [fish don't know if it is called something in America]

Deatach: Im an deataigh úd ar mo chuid bainne-se, may the butter of that house be added to my milk (impreciation used by a woman twisting a spancel on May Day in the early morning as the smoke arose from the neighboring chimneys)

Snaidhm na péiste, a folk cure for gripe or worms; cattle are beaten with a cord having a certain number of knots

cleas na péiste, a kind of knot which is supposed to have the effect of killing worms in cattle

Go raibh maith agat, a Bhearn. Ach bhí mé ag fiafrú faoi an gheasróg a deir go duine a rugadh ar an Cincís (cincíseach) beidh mí-ádh aige. Cad é an bunús an piseioge seo? Cad é an fáth go bheadh Cinicís mí-ámharach?

an gheasróg sainiúil seo

Words ending in "óg" or "eog" are feminine:

an gheasróg shainiúil

But, as always, if in doubt, go to www.csis.ul.ie/focloir

I keep forgetting to make the nouns and adjectives agree, Buiochas.

A Phádraig, rinne mé google ar "whit sunday child born on".

Ní bhfuair mé aon cúis, ach is cosúil go raibh an pisreog forleathan. Mar a dúirt mé thuas, níor chuala mise faoi seachas i bhfoclóir Dinneen.

Seans go mbeadh tú in ann teacht ar an alt seo:
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0015-587X(19040929)15%3A3%3C347%3AWF%3E2.0.CO%3 B2-Q

tá roinnt eolais breise anseo:

http://www.libraryireland.com/AncientLegendsSuperstitions/Superstitions.php

Ó ché nó maith go leor nó cibé. Is mar a chéile Cincís agus Whitsuntide ach, fadó, ba lá saoire págánta Lá Baal Tinné. Tharlaigh sé an taca sin den bhliain go bhfuil Cinís, agus bhí pisreoga go leor aige. Bhí siad go léir mí-ámharach. An duine a rugadh ar an Cincís go n-ainminitear cincíseach (duine mí-ámharac) atá focal Críostaí le pisreog págánta. Go raibh maith agat, a Aonghuis. Tá an dhionbháilteacht agus righneas tarbhghadhair agat.

Ní fheadair aon duine cé hé ag léamh an ghliogairecht seo. Ní scríobhann aon duine rá: "is díogha an Ghaeilge seo -- riamh!" B'fheidir tá barríocht cúirléise ag gach uile duine bheith criticúil. Nó b'fheidir is intuigthe é.

(Message edited by pádraig on July 07, 2007)

Oops cúirléise cúirtéise

Is mar a chéile Cincís agus Whitsuntide ach, fadó, ba lá saoire págánta Lá Bealtaine. Tharlaigh sé Bhí sé um an taca sin den bhliain go bhfuil Cincís, agus bhí pisreoga go leor aige ag baint leis. Bhí siad go léir mí-ámharach.

An duine a rugadh ar an Cincís go n-ainminitear cincíseach (duine mí-ámharach) atá focal Críostaí le pisreog págánta.

Níos fearr: Tugtar Cincíseach ar an duine a rugtar ar an Cincís, duine a bhfuil mí ádh air. Ainm Chríostaí, ach pisreog págánach.


Go raibh maith agat, a Aonghuis. Tá an dhiongbháilteacht agus righneas tarbhghadhair agat.

Ní fheadair aon duine cé hé atá ag léamh an ghliogaireacht seo. Ní scríobhann aon duine ag rá: "is díogha an Ghaeilge seo -- riamh!" B'fhéidir tá go bhfuil barraíocht cúirtéise ag gach uile duine le bheith criticiúil. Nó b'fhéidir is go bhfuil sé dothuigthe é.

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Níl. Bíonn gach tosach lag. Coinnigh ort.

Tá jubilation orm! Go raibh maith agat, a chara.

Fáilte romhat. Shleamhnaigh roinnt mionrudaí uaim:

Nó b'fhéidir go bhfuil sé dothuigthe é.

Is fearr an saor síor-bhuailteach, ná an saor sár-bhuailteach. Cleachtadh a níos máistreacht, mar sin....

(níos = déanann)

Aha. Is meafar é. Smaoinigh mé go bheinn ag troid an lá ar fad.

saor = mason.

The steadily striking mason is better than the mason who strikes a great blow.

I thought it was the training boxer vs the accomplished boxer.

Dia dhaoibh! agas conas ata sibh?