http://www.gaelport.com/index.php?page=clippings&id=1897&viewby=date

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There is now a gaelscoil operating in every county in the State. But what's behind the boom - real engagement with Irish language and culture, or old-fashioned snobbery and elitism? Louise Holden reports

The people accusing the Gaelscoileanna of snobbery seem to me like the Kevin Meyers sort who are not interested in Irish doing well. Thus they try to find something wrong with a system that is clearly popular and growing to their dismay.

If I can find an Irish man to marry, our kids will be going to a Gaelscoil if we can get in. People can say whatever they like about me, I don't care. The only problem is that I'll be adopting my kids so I won't be able to put them on the waiting list when they're born so I don't know that they'll be able to get in.

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If I can find an Irish man to marry, our kids will be going to a Gaelscoil if we can get in. People can say whatever they like about me, I don't care. The only problem is that I'll be adopting my kids so I won't be able to put them on the waiting list when they're born so I don't know that they'll be able to get in.

Just out of curiosity, would you mind me asking what age you are? I've always pictured you as being about 25... Just curious!

Ná fiafraigh de bhean a haois riamh, an bhfuil sé ceart a Ríona?

Just practicing my Irish.......FRC-GRMA

No, I'm quite fine with telling my age. You have overshot the mark a Fhear na mbrog. I'm 21.

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It's worth noting that the report doesn't even mention Northern Ireland where Gaelscolaíocht is booming...And there's gaelscoileanna in all 32 contae not just in the State buíochas le dia.

And from my own experience Everyone - Páistí, Múinteoirí & Tuistí are a lot more involved and motivated...

And as for the snobbery, well who cares if it brings more Gaeilgeoirí líofa into the country who really cares?

Domhnall read my mind and beat me to the post :-)

I hate to be the one to say it, but NI has really begun to take an interest in the revival of the language and may be able to progress where the Republic has became rather stagnant.

While it is true that it also has more than its equal in anti-Irish sentiments, the fact that there is a push to renew the language areas that were once so "anti-Irish" is an inspirational sign.

"In both the Republic and Northern Ireland in 2004, there were nearly 200 gaelscoileanna, at both primary and post-primary, outside the Gaeltacht compared to just 16 in 1972." (Irish Language Section, An Coimisinéir Teanga, 2004.)

http://www.coimisineir.ie/index.php?page=faoin_teanga&lang=english&tid=23

Very good post a Dhomhnaill a chara, as long as Irish is being promoted and all children are allowed to attend who wish to, then who cares if some people think its snobbery.

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Ná fiafraigh de bhean a haois riamh, an bhfuil sé ceart a Ríona?

Déanaim iarracht bheith leochaileach nuair a fhiafraím ceisteanna den leithéid sin; bhí Ríona in ann diúltiú dá mba sin a rogha!

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No, I'm quite fine with telling my age. You have overshot the mark a Fhear na mbrog. I'm 21.

Tá súil agam nach bhfuil fear fiche bliain d'aois ró-óg duit... cathain a dúirt tú go mbeifeá ag teacht go hÉirinn. . . ? :P

.... Aye mé féin fiche bliain d'aois... Bíodh sex-change agat agus pósfaidh muid Ríona ;)

Not to get into politics but this is quite relevant.. There's been whispers in high places in Belfast that deals are being done between Sinn Féin & DUP... As in give us our Language act and we'll give you your marching routes... Beidh le feiceáil...

A Fhear na mbrog,

I don't know that I'll ever be able to go back to Ireland, if I can it will probably be somewhere in the distant future in all actuality. I know for sure that my dad says he'll never take me again on acount of the lengthy flight.

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Bíodh sex-change agat

This is a good example of where people just throw an established English phrase into an Irish sentence. I know it was just a once-off quip, a Dhomhnaill, and I'm not attacking you for it, but this is how these impurities are bred into the language. All it took was one person to say "babysit" in Irish, and then the next, until everyone was saying it. As my signature below messages would reflect, I strive to keep my Irish Irish... so I would've said athrú gnéis. Just my two cents.

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I know for sure that my dad says he'll never take me again on acount of the lengthy flight.

A few drinks and he'll be sorted ha! I flew from Shannon to Massachusets(excuse the spelling) before, and back, and didn't mind the flight at all.

I live on the opposite side of the US as Massachusettes so its longer for me and includes a transfer, he hated it.

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A Riona

Sure aren't ye a big girl now, can't you come next time yourself. There's plenty here would mind you

B'fhéidir gur féidir le gach aon duine a bhualadh leis a chéile leath bealaigh. Béidh seachtaine na Gaeilge in Esopus i Nua Eabhrac i Lúnasa. Feic:

http://www.daltai.com/events.htm

Ach caithfidh sibh a ra "soda" anseo. Ni d(h?)eirtear "pop" i Nua Eabhrac.

FRC-GRMA

(Message edited by mac_léinn on April 19, 2007)

(Message edited by mac_léinn on April 19, 2007)

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Ni d(h?)eirtear "pop" i Nua Eabhrac

None of the forms of the verb "abair" (i.e. to say) ever take a h:

Ní dúirt, ní deir, ní déarfaidh, ní déarfadh...

Go raibh maith agat a Fhear na mBróg. I was thinking that while I was typing, but as usual, made the wrong decision.

None of the forms of the verb "abair" (i.e. to say) ever take a h:
Ní dúirt, ní deir, ní déarfaidh, ní déarfadh...

That is true... in standard Irish. In some dialects you'd have a séimhiú there...

http://www.gaelport.com/index.php?page=clippings&id=1908&viewby=date

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Tá sé ráite go neamhbhalbh ag uachtarán Gaelscoileanna nach bhfuil aon pholasaí ag scoileanna lán-Ghaeilge chun daltaí ó chur ó dhoras, ar bhonn ciníoch nó ar aon bhonn eile.
Bhí Mícheál Ó Broin ag tabhairt freagra ar thuairiscí i ndornán de nuachtáin Domhnaigh ar na mallaibh inar maíodh go raibh tuismitheoirí áirithe ag cur a bpáistí chuig Gaelscoileanna de bharr gur chreid siad gur lú seans go mbeadh orthu meascadh le páistí den chine gorm ansin.

Tá ar a laghad triúr páiste ghorm, agus dornán le cúlra Áiseach sa Ghaelscoil ar a bhfreastalaíonn mo pháistí.
Agus is maith ann iad!

Aye, nuair a bhíos féin ag obair i gColáiste na Rinne bhíodh déarfainn ochtar ann ó thíortha eile - an tSín, An Ind &rl.. Iontach deas iad a fheiceáil agus iad ar chomhchéim leis na leaids eile..

Are Gaelscoileanna Catholic? It'll be at least 5 years before I ever have a child in school but I know I won't be sending them to any religion-specific school.

Tá Gaelscoileanna de gach saghas ann, idirchreidmheach ina measc. Ní dóigh liom go bhfuil aon scoil nemah chreidmheach ann - níl a léithéid in Éirinn, go bhfios dom.

http://www.foras.ie/

http://www.foras.ie/Gaelscoil_le_Sainmheon_Ilchreidmheach%20done.html

Without trying to sound too political or hostile here, (as I know that there's religious people here), I wouldn't want my child's head to be filled with shite before they're even able to think for themselves -- regardless of what religion is being "taught" to them.

What do you mean by "idirchreidmheach"? What exactly would they teach in such a school? I suppose I wouldn't be too against them attending a class which teaches them stuff like "Religion A doesn't eat meat on a Friday, Religion B circumsize their children, Religion C fast during the month of June.", but I'd be totally against the imposing of a religion upon them, e.g. "You better believe Jesus is your messiah or you'll be torchered for an eternity...", or "You'll be given 70 virgins in heaven if you become a suicide a bomber...". Fair enough if my children want to be religious but I'll let them decide that for themselves when they're mature enough. And before an argument kicks off, I realise that the religious people here will say that such learnings are certainly not "shite", and those religious people are entitled to that opinion, but I myself think otherwise, and I too am entitled to that opinion. Moving swiftly onwards...

Ach 'sé a bhfuil mé ag déanamh iarrachta é a rá ná gur mhaith liom mo pháiste a sheoladh (briathar ceart?) go Gaelscoil, ach níor sheolfainn dá mbeadh religiún áirithe á mhúineadh dóibh.

Scríobhfainn an méid iomlán thuas as Gaolainn ach tá stór focal in easnamh orm.

Tá sainmhiniú ar idirchreidmheach, mar a bhaineann sé leis na scoileanna ar shuíomh an Fhoráis Patrúntachta (nasc thuas).

Ó tharla gur Caitliceach Rómhánach mé, ní bhacfaidh mé plé leis an racht úd uait.

Aye mise freisin, ní fóram creidimh é seo..

Seol do pháiste - I'd take that to mean you're going to wrap up your child and post them to the scoil..

Déarfainn gur fearr "Cuirfidh mé mo pháiste ar aghaidh go dtí an ghaelscoil áitiúil.."

QUOTE: Ó tharla gur Caitliceach Rómhánach mé, ní bhacfaidh mé plé leis an racht úd uait.

A, buail romhat. Beidh sé cumhach. (Nilim ach ag amaidí.)

QUOTE: Ó tharla gur Caitliceach Rómhánach mé, ní bhacfaidh mé plé leis an racht úd uait.

Ceartúcháan (?)

A, buail romhat. Ba chumhach linn. (nilim ach ag amaidí.)

A Shuaimhneais a chara,

Perhaps its best for people to not make fun of others if they do not know their personal circumstances.

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Dúirt Ríona:

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A Shuaimhneais a chara,

Perhaps its best for people to not make fun of others if they do not know their personal circumstances.

I believe this was in response to:

Dúirt Suaimhneas:

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A Riona

Sure aren't ye a big girl now, can't you come next time yourself. There's plenty here would mind you

Ríona, I don't believe Suaimhneas was mocking you at all, but rather offering some encouragement. Plenty of people on this forum find you quite likeable and I for one wouldn't mind spending a night or two on the couch to accomodate your visit to Ireland... I bet the entire group would even meet up just to have a pint with you.

Ta tu go deas a Fhear na mbrog. Too bad you and I didn't meet when I went over there the first time. I guess you missed my post about e-mailing me if you wanted to meet. :(

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How long ago was this? Most likely the group wasn't as close-knit then as it is now... for instance me and Domhnall used to be at each other's throats but we've sort of acquiesced to each other's personalities lately -- either that or feuds just take a lot of energy hehe. I still have the odd little row with Aonghus, (mostly over me insulting Catholicisim), but things are quite serene here lately.

A word of caution: If you do come over you'd wanna be quite firm with me 'cause after a few pints I'll be trying to persuade you not to send me to the couch. . . ;) hehe

This was in Sept. I had a couple of threads about me coming and what I should do while there and who wanted to meet me etc. perhaps you were taking a break from us at the time?

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Honestly can't remember! I go through phases of spending hours on the internet per day, then spending barely any time per week... Anywho I have a car now (two, actually) so I'd be more than happy to meet up... save a bit of dosh and rent a mobile home in a decent Gaeltacht (one of the ones where they actually speak Irish)

I have acquiesced to you now have i!? ;)

Mo náire thú ^^ you're such a buachaill dána!

You would not want to sleep in my bed -as there is no matress. I prefer a hard bed, a habit I picked up from spending 3 months in a tent

... As you do!