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Mháire (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 11:00 am: |
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I'm am a complete beginner at Irish, and am having trouble with sentance structure. Anything on this would help, since lately I use English structure for Irish, and I know that's not right. If anyone could point me towards a helpful resource or explain anything, that would be great! Thanks! |
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Pádraig
Member Username: Pádraig
Post Number: 417 Registered: 09-2004
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 11:23 am: |
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As a complete beginner, the first thing I had to get used to was the word order in sentences. First the verb; then the subject; then the modifiers. "The young boy ran," becomes "Ran the boy young." After you get accustomed to that, brace yourself for all the exceptions you'll encounter. Ní maith é an duine a bheith leis féin.
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Antaine
Member Username: Antaine
Post Number: 1035 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 11:52 am: |
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Listen to lots of old Irish people speaking english. I'm frequently able to sort out what the Irish syntax should be by asking myself "how would my great-grandmother have said that?" |
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Mháire (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 12:32 pm: |
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Yes, my great grandfather used to have a odd way of piecing together sentances, but he passed on quite a while ago, so that is no longer an option, but thanks for the advice anyways. Pádraig, thanks a bunch. Those things really confuse me and it's wonderful to have it put in understandable English. All the other sites I've tried use words which I don't know the meaning to and have half of everything in Gaelic! |
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Maidhc_Ó_g
Member Username: Maidhc_Ó_g
Post Number: 328 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 01:45 pm: |
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Take a look here under 'clauses and syntax'. Actually, the whole site is great. http://nualeargais.ie/gnag/gramadac.htm |
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BRN (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 03:34 pm: |
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Sentance structure such as VSO can be a great rubric for remembrance, : when to know when to use iad vs said, sé vs é, í vs sí, tú vs thú -simple, full form is in Subject position, shorn form, é in in Object position ex mé and tú (tú becomes thú) V | S | O | | | Chuala | mé | thú | | I heard you | Chuala | mise | thú | | *I* heard you | Chuala | mé fhein | thú | | I myself heard you | Chuala | mise mé fhéin | thú | | *I myself* heard you | | And goes without saying -FRC! |
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Mháire (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 06:18 pm: |
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Thanks everyone! The chart and sites are helping a bunch! Hopefully I'll soon be able to participate in you Irish conversations! (wishful thinking) |
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Karen H. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 05:05 pm: |
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Regarding: As a complete beginner, the first thing I had to get used to was the word order in sentences. First the verb; then the subject; then the modifiers. "The young boy ran," becomes "Ran the boy young." So, would "The young boy ran very quickly" become "Ran very quickly the boy young"? |
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Mac_léinn
Member Username: Mac_léinn
Post Number: 408 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 06:44 pm: |
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Rith an buachaill óg go an-tapa(idh). Ran the boy young very quickly. I think that would be the normal word order, although I think the order that you indicate above is correct also. P.S. The idh ending is a variant spelling of quickly. Fáilte Roimh Ceartúcháin - Go Raibh Maith Agaibh http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teachyourselfirish http://groups.yahoo.com/group/irishlinguistics
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2991 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:25 pm: |
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"An seanchas gearr, an seanchas is fearr."
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