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Cionaodh
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 05-2005


Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 12:59 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A chairde,

Have any of you heard about these two new "Teach Yourself" titles?

Teach Yourself Irish Grammar:
http://www.teachyourself.co.uk/lIrishG.htm

Teach Yourself Irish Conversation:
http://doi.contentdirections.com/mr/mgh.jsp?doi=10.1036/0071463593

I stumbled across these today, and although I'm familiar with the author (Éamonn Ó Dónaill), I hadn't heard about these upcoming titles and so am caught unawares. I'm hoping someone here might have more information . . .

(The author is different than the two who authored the rather disappointing 1990s-era TYI course)

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Dennis
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Post Number: 652
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 01:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Maith thú, a Chionaoidh! Seo deis againn feidhm a baint as an gclipart nua a thug Caoimhín dúinn, mar atá . Níl ceachtar acu i gcló fós, ach is léir go bhfuil siad ar na bacáin.

Is cainteoir dúchais as Gaoth Dobhair an t-údar, mura a bhfuil dul amú orm. Is cuimhin liom é ó na laethanta a bhíodh sé ag scríobh ar Gaelic-L. Dúirt sé i Meán Fómhair '95, mar shampla:

"Nuair a bhí mise ag éirí aníos i nGaoth Dobhair is cinnte dá ndéarfainn le mo mháthair 'Ar mhiste leat plocóid an oighinn mhicreathonnaigh a chur sa soicéad?' nach bhfaighinn
suipéar ar bith an oíche sin!"

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Aaron
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 02:05 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Teach Yourself Irish Grammar" is currently available through Amazon. There isn't much information there, but I assume the concept behind the book is similar to the other TY-Grammar books the publisher has available.

I read a bit of TY Dutch Grammar some time ago and I found it to be a good book, and better, in my opinion, than the basic Teach Yourself series. I'm sure it's a very subjective thing, of course. It had simple lessons a few pages long (if I remember right), and was very to the point. I think it's more of a book for people who already have some language experience.

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Cionaodh
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 05-2005


Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 03:54 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Scríobh Dennis:

>>Maith thú, a Chionaoidh! Seo deis againn feidhm a
>>baint as an gclipart nua a thug Caoimhín dúinn, mar atá .


Beidh craic againn anois, ceart go leor. ;-)

>>Is cainteoir dúchais as Gaoth Dobhair an t-údar

Scríobh sé na cúrsaí "Now You're Talking" agus "Turas Teanga"; féach ar an eolas seo eile: http://www.rte.ie/tv/turasteanga/credits.html.

Tá súil agam go mbeidh na leabhair seo chomh maith nó is fearr . . .


(Message edited by cionaodh on November 26, 2005)

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Cionaodh
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Post Number: 69
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 04:05 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Scríobh Aaron:

>>"Teach Yourself Irish Grammar" is currently available
>>through Amazon. There isn't much information there,
>>but I assume the concept behind the book is similar
>>to the other TY-Grammar books the publisher
>>has available.


I haven't seen any of the other TYI grammars; how would a TYI grammar compare to other popular Irish grammar books, such as New Irish Grammar?

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Aaron
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 08:19 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

how would a TYI grammar compare...



Basically, TY-Grammar is more of a workbook/textbook than a reference book. It contains about a 100 lessons, each about a page or so long, and then some exercises. It could be used as a reference, though, since it's full of example sentences, diagrams and explainations, but it's nowhere near as complete as other reference books. However, those new to the language might find its simple style easier to use than a full grammar.

The book doesn't have a vocabulary list, so I don't think it could easily be used stand alone in a class, but it would be a great supplement to other materials, or could be used in conjunction with other books.

And again, this was based on the Dutch book I looked at, so the Irish version could be different.

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Asarlaí
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 01-2005


Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I also have TeachYourself Irish Grammar and feel the same way Aaron does about it. Not quite what I was looking for in a Grammar book but a welcome addition to the collection nonetheless.
Is maith liom saothar An tUasal Ó Dónaill so ordóidh mé a leabhar nua, Irish Conversation. Níl sé le fáil go dtí Eanair áfach.

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Aindréas
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 02:02 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It sounds like it would be nice to have all three: TY Irish, TY Irish Grammar, and TY Irish Conversation. I tried to delve into TY Irish, and found it appalling for anyone wanting to have a basic, yet clear and useable knowledge of Irish. However that may just be my study preference :-/

I'd like to eventually purchase O'Siadhail's book, but money just doens't grow on trees …

Can someone comment on the Irish Conversation?

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