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Lost newbie
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Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I think its called the 'reflexive' when we use ' thú ' instead of ' tú '

there is an equivelant in Spanish with Te and Tu .

Te veo , I see you , ves tu ? do you see ?

which in Irish would be Feicim thú & An bhfeiceann tú ?

WOuld someone please let me know how the others are written

ie for mé , sí , sé , muid , siad ,sibh

thank you

Im trying to find out how you would write

Will we see us ( each other ) later ?
I know
an bhfeicean mé ar ball thú ? ( will I see you later? )

but dont know how to phrase it for ' ourselves '

taking a stab at it I would write ....

An bhfeicimid ar ball sinn fein ? although I have a feeling this is wrong

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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 542
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

>I think its called the 'reflexive' when we use ' thú ' >instead of ' tú '

The reflexive is when you say "mé féin", "tú féin", "é féin" etc so "myself, yourself, himself" etc.

>there is an equivelant in Spanish with Te and Tu .

>Te veo , I see you , ves tu ? do you see ?

Tu = subject
Te = (direct) object.

>which in Irish would be Feicim thú & An bhfeiceann tú ?

>WOuld someone please let me know how the others are >written

>ie for mé , sí , sé , muid , siad ,sibh

Feicim
Feiceann sé mé
(be careful, for present tense, the mé subject pronoun is inside the verb: -im ending. In most other tenses, it is as "mé", outside the verb. In some dialects, like Munster, "mé" is seldom used as a subject because most tenses have a special ending, just as -im for the present).

Feiceann sé
Feiceann sí é

Feicimid=feiceann muid
Feiceann sé muid/sinn

Feiceann sibh
Feiceann sé sibh

Feiceann siad
Feiceann sé iad.

So:
mé/mé
tú/thú
sé/é
sí/í
muid/muid or sinn
sibh/sibh
siad/iad.

>Im trying to find out how you would write

>Will we see us ( each other ) later ?

An bhfeicfimid (=an bhfeicfidh muid) a chéile níos moille/ar ball?

When u have "each other" in English, most of the time you get "a chéile" in Irish.

>I know
>an bhfeicean mé ar ball thú ? ( will I see you later? )

No, it’s "an bhfeicfidh mé ar ball thú?"

>but dont know how to phrase it for ' ourselves '

>An bhfeicimid ar ball sinn fein ? although I have a >feeling this is wrong

What you write has a wrong word order, and it means "Will we see ourselves later?" (ourselves > in a mirror and so on).

When you see yourself, it’s pronoun+féin
When you see a friend, you say "we see each other", then it’s with "a chéile".

I see myself (in a mirror) = feicim mé féin
We see each other = feicimid a chéile.

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Lost newbie
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Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

go raibh mile maith agat a lughaidh , bhi d'fhreagra an-úsáideach agus cuidiúil

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg

Post Number: 688
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 04:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Ní ritear "do" agus "fhreagra" isteach ina chéile, m.sh. "d'fhreagra", mar ní guta atá ag tús an fhocail "fhreagra" -- tagann "r" roimh an nguta.

"do fhreagra"

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Dalta
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Sé "Fhreagair" chomh maith, nach ea san aimsir caite? Ní D'fhreagair?

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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 550
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

"níor fhreagair sé"

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Dalta
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Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I think you misread what I said. For the positive of "I answered", would it be Fhreagair mé or D'fhreagair mé.

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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 554
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

D'fhreagair mé. With f- you add d' in the past and conditional, except with the verb fliuch > fhliuch mé an tae. (learnt with Micheál Ó Murchú...)



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