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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2005 (May-June) » Archive through June 17, 2005 » Use of 'as' here « Previous Next »

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Antoin
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post

...nuair a dúirt an tAire Ó Cuív nach raibh sé as an cheist ar chor ar bith...

..when the minister Ó Cuív said that he wasnt.??.question at all....

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Post Number: 568
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post

..When Minister Ó Cuív said it wasn't out of the question at all...

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Post Number: 569
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Possible mis-use of an English idiom here... a "calque" a some people call it... but then again maybe it's a saying used in Irish too?!

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Maidhc_Ó_g
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

My dictionary gives, "Níl sé sin ar dhislí." and "Níl sé sin ar indéanta." as examples for 'It is out of the question.'Maybe it's a newer idiom.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 1577
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Which dictionary is that?

indéanta means "doable"

"ar dhislí" means "on the dice" which I have never heard, but....

Neither conveys the meaning that the minister had.

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Maidhc_Ó_g
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Sorry for the slow response. Um.. Collins gem dictionary. Yes, it gives 'indéanta' as practiceable. I took the meaning of 'not on the dice' to be a colorful way of saying 'not any chance'.
Aw, of course, after reading the Irish again, I think I get it. 'As an cheist' = 'níl i gceist' or similar, that is, if I did actually get it.
Maidhc.



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