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Larry
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Username: Larry

Post Number: 32
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post

A chairde,

The following table may prove useful to those students who are confused over which conjunction to use in a subordinate clause.

POSITIVENEGATIVE
verbpresent / futurego (ecl)nach (ecl)
pastgur (len)nár (len)
copulapresent / futuregurnach
before vowelgurbnach
past / conditionalgur (len)nár (len)
before vowelgurbh (len)nárbh (len)


(ecl) eclipses a following verb
(len) aspirates a following verb.

Le meas,

(Message edited by Larry on March 22, 2005)

Larry Ackerman

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Seán a' Chaipín
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Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Thanks!

So "gur fearr" = "it is better"

"gurbh fhearr" = "it was/would be better"


Correct?

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg

Post Number: 474
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Yep, correct.

[Ba + fhearr] = B'fhearr

It'd be better to leave that at home if you went away with John.
B'fhearr é sin a fhágáil sa bhaile dá n-imeofá le Seán.
Dúirt sé gurbh fhearr é sin a fhágáil sa bhaile dá n-imeoinn le Seán.


It's better to quit while you're ahead
Is fearr éirí as agus tú chun tosaigh
Deir sé gur fearr éirí as agus tú chun tosaigh

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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 217
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Yep. Sometimes you have "go mb’ fhearr" as well but it’s not Standard Irish.

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Larry
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Username: Larry

Post Number: 33
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Further to the table above:

There are six of the irregular verbs which use go / nach in the past tense instead of gur / nár.

VerbDependant formPositiveNegative
Abair (say)dúirtgo ndúirtnach ndúirt
Bí (be)raibhgo raibhnach raibh
Déan (do / make)dearnago ndearnanach ndearna
Faigh (get)fuair go bhfuairnach bhfuair
Feic (see)facago bhfacanach bhfaca
Téigh (go)deachaighgo ndeachaighnach ndeachaigh


I apologise if my first table has caused any confusion...

Larry Ackerman

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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 221
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 07:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post

In Ulster there are differences:

Remove "abair" because we say ’d’úrt’ > gur úrt, nár úrt
Add "tabhair" > thug > go dtug, nach dtug
Add "tar" > tháinig > go dtáinig, nach dtáinig


Déan gives > rinn > go dtearn/go dtearr, nach dtearn/dtearr

Téigh gives > chuaigh > go dteachaigh, nach dteachaigh



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