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Jim (67.81.112.165 - 67.81.112.165)
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post

A Chairde,

Cad is brí go díreach le 'fáin'.


I’ve seen it translated as “scattering.” Which I suppose is a verbal noun, but I can’t find 'fáin’ in any reference source. I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong.

Le meas,
Jim

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Jim (67.81.112.165 - 67.81.112.165)
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Gabh mo leithscéal- ma's é do thoil é! I am always grateful for your help.

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Larry (217.42.53.69 - 217.42.53.69)
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Jim, a chara,

Fáin is the genitive singular form of fán. You'll find it in Foclóir Gaeilge-Béarla.

Le meas,

Larry.

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Jim (130.156.29.126 - 130.156.29.126)
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Larry, a chara,

Go raibh maith agat! I guess one has to have a fair idea of the kinds of genitive forms there are and work backwards to the noun. I hope the irregular genitives get their own listing- but I guess they are fairly rare.

le meas,

Jim

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Mare (81.11.146.77 - 81.11.146.77)
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Does it have any relation to "scaipthe" ?

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Jim (67.81.112.165 - 67.81.112.165)
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post

A Mhaire, a chara,


Go raibh maith agat! The context in which I found “fáin” was in the last verse of “Óro sé do bheatha bhaile.” I think it is describing a military victory in which the losers will be displaced. With Larry’s help I see that my foclóir suggests, “wandering” as a translation. Which is consistent with the context. Especially if you see this example of its usage:

“Duine a chur chun fáin” = To send someone wandering. (as in giving them bad directions.)


le meas,

Jim

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Dawn (66.19.56.38 - 66.19.56.38)
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Jim,

There is a translation and brief history of this song at the bottom of the thread "Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile", date Aug.9, 2002. The word used there is "dispersing".

Dawn

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Jim (130.156.27.75 - 130.156.27.75)
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post

a Dhawn, a chara,

Go raibh maith agat.

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Dawn (66.19.56.129 - 66.19.56.129)
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Tá fáilte romhat.

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