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Sériál
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Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2011 - 03:21 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

I was reading an article for practice from Beo! [ http://www.beo.ie/alt-an-11u-mean-fomhair-2001-deich-mbliana-dar-gcion.aspx ]whose link is here. I kept running into a strage verb form that I have not come accross before. I wanted to know if this form is just something that is less used, something more advanced, or something specific to a certain dialect.

cúpla samplaí:
"Chuireas", "Bhíothas", agus "Shíleas"

Also found a word that I'm not sure what this tense of it means:
"réitiú"

Go raibh maith agaibh!

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2011 - 03:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Actually it depends on the sentence.

Chuireas means "I put" (=chuir mé) in Munster Irish. But it may also be the present relative form in Ulster (an rud a chuireas mé in mo phoca = the thing I put in my pocket)

Bhiothas = One was (impersonal/briathar saor)

shileas = I thought, in Munster Irish, but as "chuireas", it may be the relative form (an rud a shileas mé = the thing I think/believe).

réitiu is a verbal noun, it's not a tense.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Sériál
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Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2011 - 03:54 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Go raibh maith agat, a Lughaidh!

I still have a lot to study on verb forms and this helps a lot. The thing that stumped me about "réitiu" was that I could not find it in any dictionary and was not sure of its root.

Gan trácht ar...I found many typos in spellings. There are many cases where "an" is put in stead of "a" and it became confusing...and "dá" was put instead of "dhá". I wish an editor had found these, but at least I know I'm improving if I can catch them. :D

(Message edited by Sériál on September 24, 2011)

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 03:06 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

_quote{he thing that stumped me about "réitiu" was that I could not find it in any dictionary and was not sure of its root.}

réitiu (with a length accent on u, but with my keyboard I can't type them easily) is the verbal noun of réitigh.

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an trácht ar...I found many typos in spellings. There are many cases where "an" is put in stead of "a" and it became confusing...and "dá" was put instead of "dhá". I wish an editor had found these, but at least I know I'm improving if I can catch them. :D



both a and an, da and dha may be right, it depends on te sentence - I can't say if there are typos or not in your text since I've not seen it.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Sériál
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Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 09:43 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Ní fhéadfadh eitleán dul an bealach ar fad tríd an bhfoirgneamh, an bhféadfadh?

This is the sentence where I thought the last "an" was supposed to be "a".

Agus le cois sin, dá mba bhuama é, cén fáth nár pléascadh gach taobh, seachas an dá thaobh amháin?

This is the other sentence that I thought the last "dá" was supposed to be "dhá".

Is this correct or is it a typo? And if it's correct, why is it this way?

Go raibh maith agaibh! :D

And Lughaidh...thank you for the explanation of réitiú!

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 09:56 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

quote:

This is the sentence where I thought the last "an" was supposed to be "a".



Why? It is a question.

Not sure about the second one; but I believe it is correct.

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Cead_ite
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Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 01:00 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Dhá when counting things normally, but , i.e., unlenited, when preceded by the article.

Tá dhá phíosta ar an mbord.

but

Mise a d'ith an dá phíosta a bhí ar an mbord.

(Message edited by cead_ite on September 26, 2011)

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 02:41 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Mothaíonn sin i gceart. Maith thú!
(Ach bhí orm smaoineamh faoi píosta - cad tá i gceist agat? píotsa, an ea?)

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Cead_ite
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Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 04:23 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Píotsa, sea.

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