Hi

Could someone please help with the prounciation of these words?
Go raibh maith agat!

1. sa bhabhla
2. An phancóga
3. friochtán.
4. gráinne salainn.

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(Na pancóga nó An phancóg!)

An phancóg

I would say
1. Sa vow-la
2. An fan-co-ga
3. free-tan
4. grá-in-ya sal-ann
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Hi,
Does anyone know how to pronounce "Cad a dhéanann Sasanach a fhios faoi an t-uisce beatha". I know what it mean but I can only say a few words.

1. sa bhabhla -> suh waw-luh
2. An phancóg -> uh fahng-kagg
3. friochtán. -> frihr-tahn
4. gráinne salainn. -> graa-nyeh sah-linn(y) (the -nn is pronounced as in "news", ie "ny").

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"Cad a dhéanann Sasanach a fhios faoi an t-uisce beatha"

This sentence doesn't make sense!

Pephaps you could give us the English first?

Maybe it is a literal translation of "What do the English know about whiskey?" or something like that...

Aonghus,
What I'm trying to say and pronounce is "What does an Englishman know about whiskey?"

Cén t-eolas a bheadh ag Sasanach ar uisce beatha?

Tá sé sin an fadhb le Google Translate. Nuair a cuireann tú isteach" What does an englishman know about whiskey", tugann sé an t-aistriú focal ar fhocal, mar seo, faigheann tú "Cad a dhéanann Sasanach a fhios faoi an t-uisce beatha"

Tá brón orm má tá mo ghramadaí go holc

Tá sé sin an fadhb le Google Translate

Sin an fhadhb le Google Translate

Bhuel, tiocfaidh feabhas air. Ach beidh ríomhairí i gcónaí teoranta sa réimse seo. Tiontóidh siad na focail; ach beidh sé i gcónaí deacair na smaointe a thiontú. Bíonn deacracht ag daoine leis sin!

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3. friochtán. -> frihr-tahn

Also, frihX-tahn

i like in it
X somewhat like the H is hue. Not as strong as some people's pronunciation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_palatal_fricative

Hi,
I want to thank everyone for their help, I need it. Aonghus I can pronounce most of the words except for t-eolas and bheadh how do you pronounce them, once again thanks guys.

Listen to it at www.abair.ie

(I have a long standing policy of not attempting to render pronunciation in English!)

If it helps, I would say them like this (a northern pronunciation): choe-lahs and voo

choe rhymes with toe

You can also go to Forvo and check if the words are there. If not you can request them.
http://www.forvo.com/languages/ga/

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Also, frihX-tahn

i like in it
X somewhat like the H is hue. Not as strong as some people's pronunciation.

The h of "hue" is the sound of the slender ch. But in "friochtán" it is broad, ie. the sound of "ch" in Scottish "loch".

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If it helps, I would say them like this (a northern pronunciation): choe-lahs and voo

choe rhymes with toe

t-eolas : rather "choe-luss" (roughly), because the 2nd syllable has no "ah" sound, it's the neutral vowel as the "a" in "alone" etc.

bheadh is "veh-oo" in the north, roughly, not "voo".

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The h of "hue" is the sound of the slender ch. But in "friochtán" it is broad, ie. the sound of "ch" in Scottish "loch".

I understand this. I could say the same about your R, right? I have heard a "softened" ch in this position, not to mention an H. I actually haven't heard many people pronounce ch in cht very strong.

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t-eolas : rather "choe-luss" (roughly), because the 2nd syllable has no "ah" sound, it's the neutral vowel as the "a" in "alone" etc. bheadh is "veh-oo" in the north, roughly, not "voo".

Yes, correct on both. I was being sloppy with these. Thanks.

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I understand this. I could say the same about your R, right?

in Northern Donegal, the ch becomes a devoiced r before t, that's why I transcribed "frihr-tahn".
I know one can pronounce "frikh-tahn" as well but it's not the way I pronounce, so...

Thanks, Lughaidh. By the way, off topic a bit, I see in south-west Donegal that in final position r' often goes to ʝ , ð, or j. Wagner also uses þ, but I am not sure how that differs from ð. Now I think j is most common in the north, but do you have any opinion on which pronunciation is favored? Also, did you favor a particular one in your dictionary? I can't find any common theme in Teileann except variety. Thanks.

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Thanks, Lughaidh. By the way, off topic a bit, I see in south-west Donegal that in final position r' often goes to ʝ , ð, or j.

Maybe, I don't know well these dialects. In Gaoth Dobhair people use [j] for final /r'/ (and /r'/ between vowels as well, in most cases).

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Wagner also uses þ, but I am not sure how that differs from ð.

þ is "th" as in English "both"
ð is "th" as in English "these"
("Standard English" of course, since Hiberno-English often uses dental t and d for these)

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Now I think j is most common in the north,

most common in Gaoth Dobhair, because in the other places of Northern Donegal, they use a "normal" slender r most of the time.

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Also, did you favor a particular one in your dictionary?

aye, the Gaoth Dobhair way, ie. [j], since it's the dialect I prefer and best know.

GRMA.

Hi,
Thanks again everyone for the information it's very useful. I like Aonghus's translation it looks like the Connacht dialect and thanks for that website for pronouncing words.

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You can also go to Forvo and check if the words are there. If not you can request them.
http://www.forvo.com/languages/ga/

What a useful site -thanks! I can hear the differences in the accents of the different speakers in Ireland and also learn how to pronounce words that are challenging for me, like dhéanamh.

For the fun of it, I took a listen to how people pronounce "water" in English, in particular in the Mid-Atlantic region of the U.S. (New Jersey, etc.) and sure enough it's pronounced "correctly" with two "r's." - warter!

Warter? Sounds like a DC thing... In NJ I've heard water or wudder.