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Iar-nua-aimseartha: post-modern
Iar-Stiúrthóir: Former Director

Iar- seems to have pre- and post- meanings.

Is there a connection with Iar- (west); Iar-Indiach - West Indian

I have noted in Corca Dhuibhne that, in English, they use the term "back" to indicate a westerly direction: "He lives back in Ventry";

Same meaning. A former director has left directing behind him; a post modern has left modernity behind him.

Iar/Thiar means both west and behind.

GRMA, a Aonghuis

Any idea why it means both west and behind? Is it to do with looking east to the dawn (future); and west to the setting sun (the past)?

Níl barúil agam. Tá sé sa teanga ó thús, go bhfios dom. Tharlódh go bhfuil an ceart agat maidir le rian na gréine.

tíar
thíar
Keywords: behind; previous passage; in the west; westerly; Ireland
Letter: T
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tíar
adv. later thíar. See also tíarain.

(a) behind: cengal etaru tiar for a formna, Aen. 1064 . dairt i crand nairidi tiar, Críth Gabl. 224 . meadh meanaidh thiar ar a thóin, Ir. Review , 1912, 471 § 7 . Referring to previous passage in a book: cia nos labram tiar i stair, Rawl. 69 b 10 . don taoibh thiar `on the other side ' FM v 1786.1 →
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(b) in the west, westerly: `cid dognither thiar innossa ... ?' `Tene do ḟatog ┐ bó derg do thelcud forsin n-áth aniar,' Ériu iii 141.193 . cont-ric fri Richis ... t.¤ oc Lemain, MU² 1029 . d'éixibh Érenn thoir is t.¤, ZCP viii 109.21 . ni dinsid tiar na tair, SR 7629 . an taobh thiar, TSh. 173 . Referring to Ireland, in opposition to tair (q.v. ): is imdha toir laech leabhar ... imdha tiar toradh abhla, Reeves Ad. , 286.9 , 13 .

GRMA

Ar chuala tú an abairtín seo riamh i gCorca Dhuibhne:

"Tá an fear bocht ag dul soir" (Tá sé glan as a mheabhair, ce go raibh an t-ospidéal mearbhaill i gCill Airne)

Tá rian den bhfocal "iar" san abairt "Ar m'éirí dhom ar maidin, ..." (= tar éis dom éirí)


Níl a fhios agam faoi "Ar mo ghabháilt dom siar chun Droichead Uí Mhórdha ..."

Níor chuala. Shíl mé gur bhain "dul soir" le Conamara, agus gealtlann Bhaile na Slua.

Gan amhras, tá Gleann na Gealt soir uaidh Corca Dhuibhne chomh maith. (http://www.logainm.ie/24603.aspx)

Jeaicín: bhfuil tú cinnte faoi "ar" ansin? "Ar an bpointe a d'éirigh mé" an chiall a bhainimse as, i. "[up]on" an Bhéarla. Rud a fhreagraíonn don dara abairt.

Tá an Foclóir Beag as líne faoi láthair, ach sílim an ceart a bheith agam maidir le "ar" anseo.

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Tá 'n ceart ag Jeaicín maidir le sanasaíocht "ar" nuair a úsáidtear roimhe ainm bhriathartha é leis a' chiall "after", thig sé ó "iar" (d'fhoghlaim mé sin san ollscoil) :

Ar a ghabháil 'na' chuain domh

sin : iar a ghabháil, after going.

Fad ó shoin, déarfaí "táim iar ndul..." ; in Albain deireann siad "tha mi air dol", agus i Manainnis, choinnigh siad an t-urú i ndiaidh "er" féin in amannaí : ta mee er ngheddyn (=tá mé i ndiaidh fáil).

Maith agat as sin. Rudaí nua le foghlaim de shíor ans(e)o!

Tá leagan eile ar mhaith liom a fheiceáil á úsáid níos minicí: "arna" - "(Leabhar) arna fhoilsiú ag Mac Uí Rodaí Tta, 2011".

B'fhearr liom é sin ná "foilsithe ag ..."

Seans gurbh fhearr "Foilsíodh 2011" agus/nó "D'fhoilsigh ..." ná ceachtar acu.

Is fuath liom "Bhí sé foilsithe i 2011" mar aistriú ar "It was published in 2011". Yuck.

Thig leat "Foilsiodh an leabhar seo i 2011" a raidht fosta.

Nó "I 2011 a foilsíodh an leabhar seo"

Tá blas sách chasta ar "arna", cé go mbíodh sé coitianta.

Tá an Phríomhchathair in oirthear na tíre.
breathnaímis soir !!