Just wondering is this sentence correct?

• An bhfuil tú ag sábháil? Tá ag sábháil le haghaidh rothar!

Go raibh maith agat!

Just put "bicycle" in the genitive following that prepositional phrase, and get a subject for the second sentence.

I tend to prefer the verb coigil when putting aside money for something, but a quick check of the dictionary says sábháil is ok as well.

(Message edited by cionaodh on February 19, 2011)

(Message edited by cionaodh on February 19, 2011)

Sounds English...
An bhfuil tu ag sábháil?.... sábháil what? :-)

Have to say "money" or whatever you're saving.

An bhfuil tu ag sábháil airgid?

or better (I think using "sábháil" when talking about money is an Anglicism too) :

An bhfuil tú ag coigilt airgid?
or
An bhfuil tú ag cur airgid i dtaisce?


and then : le haghaidh rothair, fá choinne rothair
or le rothar a cheannacht, fá choinne rothar a cheannacht, chun rothar a cheannacht, etc

I tend to think of sábháil as being more about rescuing someone or some thing from harm. But Ó Dónaill lists saving money as being one of the uses of sábháil . . . nevertheless, to me it has a smell of Béarlachas about it.

ag carnadh airgid suas???

The entry in Ó Dónaill is very clear that sabháil means to keep money for future use.

However, I would have used sabháil for one of the meanings of "save money" in English - to avoid spending it by getting something for a lower price - and coigilt, cuir i dtaisce for the meaning "putting aside for future use"

I would recommend:

An bhfuil tú ag coigilt?

I recall that I saved in the Banc Coigiltis as a nipper

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The entry in Ó Dónaill is very clear that sabháil means to keep money for future use.

But have a look at De Bhaldraithe : as fas as I know he doesn't mention "sabhail" as a translation of "to save money".
To me it's an Anglicism (even though many people may say it), btw I don't know any language who uses "to save" when talking about money, except English :-)

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I would recommend: An bhfuil tú ag coigilt?

Yes, one can also use an bhfuil tü ag spáráil?

Can you use "coigilt" (or "sparail") without saying what you're saving?

Sílim é; bheadh sé intuigthe cad atá á choigilt agat. Go háirithe má luann tú sprioc.

In Tobar na Gaedhilge, is cosuil go luaitear achan uair cad é ata a choigilt ag an charachtar. Teinidh agus rudai eile ata i gceist an chuid is mo don am, agus nuair is airgead a bios i gceist, luaitear é.

B'fhéidir go bhfuil an ceart agat.

I've mostly heard coigilt in the case of saving the fire/embers for morning "coigilt an tine".

An i dtaisce a chuirfeá airgead, mar sin?

an bhfuil tü ag spáráil? = Are you saving (up)?

Tá sin ann: ach n'fheadar an coigilt atá i gceist

http://www.potafocal.com/Search.aspx?Text=sp%C3%A1r%C3%A1il

Saving money (in the bank) = Airgead a chuir i dtaisce/chuin taisce (sa bhanc)

To put some money aside for a rainy day = Beagán airgid a leagan tharat i gcomhair lá na coise tinne

Tá "airgead a choigilt" ar "saving up money" aige Mac Cionnaith.

airgead a spáráilt - ní hionann san agus airgead a chuir chuin taisce sa bhanc ach rud a déarfadh duine in abairt leithéid "An mbeadh euro le spáráilt agat?". Rud eile a déarfadh duine: "Dein spáráilt/bí sábhálach ar an mbia agus a luíod a bhfuil ann do" = tarraig caol ar an mbia (spare the food, go easy on it seeing as we have so little of it)

Sábhálfaidh tú pingin mhaith dhuit féinig ach malairt árachais a dh'fháilt i gcomhair do mhótair - You'll save a good bit of money if you switch your car insurance

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An i dtaisce a chuirfeá airgead, mar sin?

sea, sin é an leagan is fearr


"spáráil" (and "sábháil" too can have the same meaning) means to save money not neccesary in the since of putting it in the bank but trying not to spend the money you have as you don't have enough of it to spend. That's an awful explanation.
Cheannaigh mé an ceann is saoraigh in áit in ceann is deise mar tá mé ag spáiráil airgead. Being trifty I guess.

That's how I look at it, that's not to say both words could have a different meaning too in context.

Nuair a bhí an Ghaeilge a labhairt in Oirthear Uladh, más buan mo chuimhne déaradh daoine - tá mé ag saothrú airgid - I am saving money.

Tá mé a' cosnadh airgid - I am earning money.

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"spáráil" (and "sábháil" too can have the same meaning) means to save money not neccesary in the since of putting it in the bank but trying not to spend the money you have as you don't have enough of it to spend. That's an awful explanation.

That's precisely what "spáráil" means. "Spáráil" comes from the English "spare" and means more or less the same thing. You wouldn't use "spáráilt" for "saving money in the bank". "Being thrifty" covers it exactly. "Skimping, watching your pennies".

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tá mé ag saothrú airgid - I am saving money.

"Ag tuilleamh airgid" a chiall san i bpaistí eile don dtír.

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Tá mé a' cosnadh airgid - I am earning money.

Tá san luaite aige Mac Cionnaith.

D'fhoghlaim mise "airgead a shaothru" leis a' chiall "to earn money".

an phingin bheag a chuir ar an bpingin mhór - leagan eile a cloistear in Iarthar Dhuibhneach

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D'fhoghlaim mise "airgead a shaothrú" leis a' chiall "to earn money".

mise freisin

Ar a shon san féin, ná tarlódh go mbeadh an chiall san leis in áiteanna in Oirthear Uladh mar a luaigh Ggn?

"Airgead a chur i leataobh" - leagan eile a ritheanns liom.

This would be the equivalent of "to put aside (money)", but I don't think it's a Béarlachas, as it exists also in French, German etc.

Nod libh gur cuir i dtaisce is ciall le "sparen" sa Ghearmáinis - ach tá an chiall bheith tíosach leis freisin.