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Tadgheile
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Username: Tadgheile
Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 07:39 am: |     |
Good morning
Looking for background to why New Years day is called La Coille . |
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Carmanach
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Username: Carmanach
Post Number: 1261
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 07:54 am: | |
It's a corruption of the Latin calendae 'first day of the month'. English has borrowed the word as "calends" and "calendar".
"Lá Coille" is also known as "Lá na nIarsmaí" or "Lá na Miasmaí".
Note that the name is spelled "Tadhg" not "Tadgh"! |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 11344
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 08:08 am: | |
And Lá Caille |
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Corkirish
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Username: Corkirish
Post Number: 881
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 08:10 am: | |
Aonghus, whatever you think of the traditional spellings in Dinneen's dictionary, Lá Coille is not a spelling mistake, but rather the traditional spelling. |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 11347
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 08:45 am: | |
Caille is the older spelling.
See DIL under callann
callann
cailne caille calann c. callainn
Keywords: calends; first; day; month; annal; entry
Nod leat go ndúirt mé go dtugtar Lá Caille ar an lá freisin. Ní dhearna mé beachtaíocht ar bith ar Lá Coille. |
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Corkirish
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Username: Corkirish
Post Number: 882
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 08:51 am: | |
Aonghus - I know - as Dinneen says that coille came from caileann. But Lá Coille was the traditional spelling immediately before the introduction of the glorious, new, improved form of Irish. |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 11349
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 09:01 am: | |
Nod leat nár luaigh mé litriú a bheag na a mhór.
Ní gá gach rud a dhearcadh tríd priosma do sheasamh, nó seasamh aoinne eile, ar an litriú.
Nod leat freisin go ndeir PSD gur Caille atá ceart!
"Coille (prop[perly] for caille, gs. of caileann from calendæ), the first day of the year, ..." (Dinneen, lch. 221) |
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Carmanach
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Username: Carmanach
Post Number: 1262
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 09:35 am: | |
Is cuma conas mar a leitrítear é, /kil'ɪ/ a deirtear. |
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Corkirish
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Username: Corkirish
Post Number: 885
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 09:40 am: | |
Tadhg Eile, you can read Peadar Ua Laoghaire's La Caille sermon at http://www.corkirish.com/wordpress/archives/1481 |
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