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Corkirish
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Post Number: 860
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2011 - 12:56 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Does anyone know the Munster form of these?

I found túirliocan as a verbal noun in PUL, and thúirling in the past tense. With one eye on the tairgím form of tarraingim and the fuiligím form of fuilingim, I guesse these:

present: túirligím (or túirlicím?)
past do thúirligíos (or do thúírlicíos?), do thúirlig sé [assuming as with tharraing and d'fhuiling that the -ng is pronounced just -g]
future: túírliceód, túírliceóidh sé
imperative: túirlig
past participle: túirlicithe

PUL's verbal noun is problematic, as the Irish of West Muskerry says the verbal noun is túirlic

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Corkirish
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2011 - 11:46 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

I have realised that -io- is better -ea- in the modern spelling, and so túirliocan is túirleacan - but there are still no Google hits of that. I have found some really rare words!

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Brídmhór
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2011 - 09:07 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

ag túirlingt = descending

thúirling an eitleán = the plane landed

thúirling an Spiorad Naomh ar na hAspal = the Holy Spirit descended on the apostles.

That's the only two examples that I can think of that I have heard often. I guess it's not a much used verb.

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Brídmhór
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2011 - 09:10 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

unless it is - turraing

to push

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Carmanach
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Posted on Monday, January 31, 2011 - 11:06 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

quote:

Does anyone know the Munster form of these?



Tuirleac /tuːrl'ək/ is the verbal noun in Corca Dhuibhne.

Ó Sé (522) gives turlaigíonn /tuːrlɪˈɡ'iːn/ ~ tuirligíonn /tuːrl'ɪˈɡ'iːn/ and gives a full paradigm of the various forms using the verb "tairrig" as an example which is inflected in the same way as other verbs in the same category. See also Ua Súilleabháin in Stair na Gaeilge.



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