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Seáiní (Unregistered Guest)
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 10:04 am: |     |
A chairde
Could anyone explain when the best way to use the following phrases:
* fá dtaobh de
* fá choinne
just trying to get the right use of them and if any one could give examples. I know they are regarding about and for the purpose of, but a few examples would be grat help.
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3674
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 08:29 am: | |
Fa dtaobh de/do = about (a subject)
e.g. leabhar fa dtaobh don Ghaeilg, bhi muid a' labhairt fa dtaobh don duine sin...
Fa choinne indicates an aim, or a direction : to, for...
Chuaigh mé go Leitir Ceanainn fa choinne leabhar ur a cheannacht.
Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/ |
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Seánw
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Username: Seánw
Post Number: 810
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 12:55 pm: | |
fá choinne also indicates "for the purpose of", so, Seo an biachlár fá choinne dinnéir.
You can also use fá or ar in place of fá dtaobh de.
(Message edited by seánw on October 15, 2010)
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3678
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 01:38 pm: | |
quote:Seo an biachlár fá choinne dinnéir. Fa choinne an dinnéara, in Ulster (since "fa choinne" is an Ulster preposition).
Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/ |
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Seánw
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Username: Seánw
Post Number: 811
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 02:53 pm: | |
Yes, you're right. Thank you.
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Seáiní_mac
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Username: Seáiní_mac
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 05:56 am: | |
Buíochas cách
Chuaigh mé go Leitir Ceanainn fa choinne leabhar ur a cheannacht.
Could you also say
Chuaigh mé go Leitir Ceanainn chun leabhar úr a cheannacht
?
Or is this not the right use of chun? |
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Carmanach
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Username: Carmanach
Post Number: 397
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 06:26 am: | |
B'fhéidir go mbeadh freagra na ceiste seo aige Lughaidh: cad é an guta in "dtaobh": /ʎː/ nó /uː/? |
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Seánw
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Username: Seánw
Post Number: 812
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 12:56 pm: | |
quote:Could you also say: Chuaigh mé go Leitir Ceanainn chun leabhar úr a cheannacht Yes.
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3682
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 02:08 pm: | |
quote:B'fhéidir go mbeadh freagra na ceiste seo aige Lughaidh: cad é an guta in "dtaobh": /ʎː/ nó /uː/? /u:/. Deirtear "fa dtu do", fiu ins na canuinti a bhfuil an fhuaim /ʎː/ acu. quote: Could you also say: Chuaigh mé go Leitir Ceanainn chun leabhar úr a cheannacht It's right but if you want to speak Ulster Irish you'd rather say "le leabhar ur a cheannacht" or "fa choinne leabhar ur a cheannacht". Chan usaidtear "chun" moran ins an chas sin, go bhfios domh.
Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/ |
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Carmanach
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Username: Carmanach
Post Number: 406
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 07:35 pm: | |
quote:/u:/. Deirtear "fa dtu do", fiu ins na canuinti a bhfuil an fhuaim /ʎː/ acu. Go raibh maith agat, a Lughaidh. Sin é a cheapas. Logainm eile gur dócha gur deineadh /uː/ nó /oː/ do /ʎː/ Ballyboden < Baile Baodáin i mBaile Átha Cliath |
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Corkirish
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Username: Corkirish
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 08:37 pm: | |
Ballyboden < Baile Baodáin i mBaile Átha Cliath
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Baile Buidín? |
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Seánw
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Username: Seánw
Post Number: 813
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 10:32 pm: | |
buadáin/bodáin/baodáin/búdan/bedan srl.
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3683
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 11:41 pm: | |
Quite often, what is -ao- in Modern Irish was oí (pronounced /oi/) or aí (/ai/) in Old Irish...
Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/ |
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Carmanach
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Username: Carmanach
Post Number: 408
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 05:12 am: | |
Very good! Thank you. |
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