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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2010 (September-October) » Archive through October 02, 2010 » The black gallows? « Previous Next »

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David Webb from corkirish.com (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 01:42 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Sadhbh in Séadna addresses someone as "a bhitheamhnaigh na croiche duibhe!", and Norma Borthwick translates it as "thief of the black gallows!" - as if such a phrase existed in English. [I think Norma Borthwick edited Séadna; she was at least the inspiration behind its publication, and so her translation is quite authoritative.]

What is a thief of the black gallows? A thief who ought to go to the gallows? A downright scoundrel? Are gallows even black anyway?

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Seánw
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Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 10:03 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post


I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.

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Carmanach
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Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 05:17 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

I think the character is saying to the bithiúnach that he is the sort of person who would end up on the gallows, a jailbird, a thoroughly disreputable character. The gallows may have been black but dubh is probably used for anything particularly bad or sinister.



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