Is this a realistic way to get fadas in MS Word? Using key combinations like ctrl+apostrophe+a for example is very unwieldy. At least web pages seem to be OK with ctrl+alt+

What do you mean by a "special keyboard"?


Hardware or driver?

I don't see what all the fuss over síntí fada is about. All you need to do is go into Start - Settings - Control Panel - Regional and Language Options and pick English - Ireland. Then you only have to press alt gr + the vowel you need. Couldn't be any simpler!

Má tá sin ar fáil duit.

N'fheadar cá bhfuil Teach Dorcha!

(D'oibrigh AltGr domsa sa Ghearmáin fosta)

Ach ag caint ar Word atháimid, nach ea? Agus tá leagan amach caighdeánach, gur féidir a dhéanamh a choigeartú, ar fáil is gach aon áit, ná fuil?

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Agus tá leagan amach caighdeánach, gur féidir a dhéanamh a choigeartú, ar fáil is gach aon áit, ná fuil?

Níl go baileach. Is ón gcóras oibriúcháin agus an tiománaí méarchláir a thagann an t-eolas.
(Tá Word ar fáil don Mac, mar shampla)

Ach conas ná beadh Word caighdeánach ar fáil ar fuaid an domhain?

1) Níl baint ag Word le "Start - Settings - Control Panel - Regional and Language Options"

2) Ní bhíonn chuile leagan amach atá ar fáil le feiceáil san áit úd, pé scéal é.


Is beag clár ríomhaire nach bhfuil ag bráth ar an gcóras oibriúcháin, agus níl siad sin féin caighdeánach.

Ní hé gur ag caint ar Word, agus air sin amháin, é ach táimse ag clóscríobh líom anso ar mo shocracht agus gan Word ar oscailt agam ar aon chor.

In Word 2003 and newer, you can assign shortcut key under View > Symbol. Select the character you want, and then assign the key you wish. I assign for my keyboard ALT + the letter, so ALT + a = á. It only works in Word though. If I write something long, I just compose it in Word and then paste it into here or some other place. If fits my needs. If you need something more permanent, then I would just start installing Irish versions of these programs with the full keyboard.

Can anyone explain how I can type away using ALT GR + vowel to get the síntí fada irrespective of where I'm typing; here, Wikipedia, Word, WordPerfect, Gmail etc.? As I said before just change the International Settings to English (Ireland) if you're using Microsoft.

And if you have that option! Not all versions of Windows do; most European ones do, but US flavours don't always.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/alt-gr-keys-HP005259063.aspx

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The ALT GR key is on the right side of the keyboard on some non-U.S. keyboard layouts.

US flavours?!!

My keyboard doesn't have an AltGr key. I can set my Windows 7 to it by following these directions.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306560

Key on United States keyboard	Character Made with Right ALT+Key	SHIFT+Right ALT+Key
4	¤	£
5	€	N/A
E	é	É
I	í	Í
O	ó	Ó
A	á	Á
U	ú	Ú

I suspect that if you have the key already, you don't need to make the adjustments that I made. But it worked for me in everything but Firefox, which I use. That is another can of worms in itself. It worked in IE, though. It's the constant quest to have Microsoft programs be friends with other ones.

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the constant quest to have Microsoft programs be friends with other ones.

Sin é. One OS to rule them all,...

"I don't see what all the fuss over síntí fada is about. All you need to do is go into Start - Settings - Control Panel - Regional and Language Options and pick English - Ireland. Then you only have to press alt gr + the vowel you need. Couldn't be any simpler!"

That's the default way it works on a Mac, too, well..alt+e and then the vowel you want (not having a three-key combo I can type at full speed with lots of fadas...75 WPM). If I have unicode on, and a unicode font selected, I ċan ġeṫ ṫhe ṗonċ aṡ well by pushing alt+w and then the consonat I want.

My computer at work with XP worked for every program, so I need to make a tweek at home. So anyone without an AltGr key, note my post. It works!

So am I right in saying that many American versions of Windows don't have a "change language" setting? If so, why not?

Because God speaks American.

http://englishfirst.org/

(Message edited by aonghus on September 22, 2010)

Ha!

No, there is that function, but practically speaking it does nothing. My keyboard is the same. The text appears the same, etc.

And, Aonghus, the language is Merican (in George W. twang).

I'm not very good at swaggering like a Texan....

Personally I blame the programmers who lack imagination.

I believe that's spelled 'Merican ...apostrophe is a letter...

Cé acu canúint é sin? Meiriceánais Thiar, Thoir, Theas nó Thuadh? Rua nó Gorm?

Land of the Brave . . . but no longer of the braves . . .

Merican...Mexican. Níl de difríocht eatarthu ach litir amháin.
"Pobre Méjico, tan lejos de Dios, tan cerca de Estados Unidos" (Porfirio Díaz) "Pobre México, pobre Estados Unidos, tan lejos de Dios, tan cerca el uno del otro" (Carlos Fuentes.)

(Message edited by Hugo on September 23, 2010)

Is cabhair dhom í mo chuid Iodáilise ach n'fheadar an dtuigim an méid sin thuas go hiomlán:

pobre = muintir?
tan lejos?
tan cerca?

tan = tanto?

el uno del otro = l'uno dell'altro = óna chéile

pobre = bocht
muintir = gente nó el pueblo
tan lejos = chomh fada (= so far!)
tan cerca el uno del otro = chomh gar dá chéile

Ardfhear! Pobre = povero in iodáilis, tan lejos = tanto lontani, tan cerca el uno del otro = tanto vicini l'uno all'altro.

circa = timpeall (ar) san Iodáilis

An foirm iolra é "lejos"?

Ní hea. "lejos"= dobhriathar; "lejano"= aidiacht. Ciao!

D'fhéadfaí "tan lejanos el uno del otro" a rá chomh maith, supongo.

(Message edited by Hugo on September 23, 2010)

Ay madre, que lenguosos somos aqui!

Polyglossophilia!

Cá mhéad pointe is fiú "polyglossophilia" sa Scrabble?
(Nó gan an t-alt: "í" Scrabble?)

Muchos gracias, gringos!

I use an american keyboard at work, as a result I downloaded: "United States-Gaeilge" keyboard mapping from here: http://mearchlar.tripod.com/

It also allows me to do punc buailte as well as grav accents:
ċ,ḋ,ḟ,ġ,ṁ,ṗ,ṡ,ṫ
à,è,ì,ò,ù

-Paul Ó Duḃṫaiġ

Alt Gr + an litir. Sin é!

Go raibh maith agat, a Charmanach, that works.

Conas a deirtear 'that works' ?

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Conas a deirtear 'that works' ?

Oibríonn sé sin
Feidhmíonn sé sin