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Dmd
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 08:02 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Cúpla ceist a chairde.
Is dócha go bhfuil 'focal' as vocabulum an Laidin.
Céard faoi 'bhriathar', as an Sean-Gaeilge?
An bhfuil 'briathar' agus 'focal' inmhalartaithe sa Gaeilge mar ainm WORD, nó an bhfuil rialacha ceangailte dóibh?

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Seánw
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 10:08 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

quote:

Is dócha go bhfuil 'focal' as vocabulum an Laidin.


Tá.
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Céard faoi 'bhriathar', as an Sean-Gaeilge?


B’fhéidir go dtagann sé as an fhréamh wer- i bhfocail cosúil le word, verb, irony, agus rhetoric. Ach níl mé cinnte ar chor ar bith.
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An bhfuil 'briathar' agus 'focal' inmhalartaithe sa Gaeilge mar ainm WORD, nó an bhfuil rialacha ceangailte dóibh?


Sílim nach bhfuil briathar úsáidte ach i gcomhthéacsanna áirithe.

I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

MacBain writes :

briathar, a word, so Ir. and O.Ir. *brêtrâ (O.Ir. is fem.; G. is mas., by analogy?), *brê, ablaut to brâ- of bràth, q.v. Bezzenberger would refer it to O.H.G. chrâjan, Eng. crow.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Séasán
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Cheap mé riamh go raibh an focal "briathar" á úsáid go mór mhór don téarma Béarla "verb".

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Aonghus
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 05:16 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

briathar [ainmfhocal firinscneach den chéad díochlaonadh]
focal (briathar béil); (gramadach) focal a insíonn cad a dhéantar nó a tharlaíonn (tar, imeoidh, shuigh, seasann agus araile).

Tá an dá rud ann. (m.sh. Sin é Briathar Dé a deirtear san Aifreann. Úsáidtear go minic é do rud a dúirt duine)

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Seánw
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 05:35 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Nó b’fhéidir go bhfuil baint aige le habair atá baint aige féin le beir.

I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 12:48 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

B'fhéidir, cf. an t-ainm briathartha "breith"...

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Mbm
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Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 03:35 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Déarfainn nach n-úsáidtear "briathar" mar mhalairt ar "focal" ach amháin más é atá i gceist ná "rud ráite go sollúnta", mar atá in "briathar Dé", "beart de réir briathair" agus mar sin de. I ngach comhthéacs eile, "focal" = "word" agus "briathar" = "verb".

Mo bhlag sa seanchló Gaelach:
www.cainteoir.com

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 04:44 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Ambriathar, is fíor duit!

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Dmd
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Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 11:42 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Go raibh maith agaibh go léir!
DMD

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Abigail
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Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 06:26 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit PostPrint Post

Tá baint ag "briathar" s'againne le "bruidhinn" na n-Albanach agus le "brwdyr" na mBreatnach. Breis eolais anseo:
http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaeilge/donncha/focal/focal202.html

Aontaím le Michal faoin gcaoi a n-úsáidtear inniu é. Is leithne go mór an réimse a bhíodh leis, mar is léir sna seanamhráin nó ar an DIL.

Tá fáilte roimh chuile cheartú!



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