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Sineadw
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Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 345
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 09:45 am: |   
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Heyas, came across this and it sounds lovely.
Do Donegal speakers say 'cionn' instead of 'ceann' for the singular?
Like a nice one: cionn deas, instead of ceann deas? |
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Seánw
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Username: Seánw
Post Number: 600
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:03 pm: |
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Yes.
I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3436
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:19 pm: |
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Yes we say "cionn". It's not another pronunciation of "ceann", but the old dative used instead of the nominative. See "thar cionn" etc in Connemara, with "cionn" in the dative case (it's a set phrase) as well ; but Donegal people use "cionn" for both nominative and dative.
Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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Sineadw
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Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 352
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:38 pm: |
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Go brea! Grma. Is maith liom é. Chuala mé 'ceanna' chomh maith mar iolra de 'ceann'- seachas 'cinn'. Tá an dá rogha ann. |
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3437
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 06:05 pm: |
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Seidh. Chan úsáidtear an dá fhoirm iolradh sin ins na cásannaí céarna i gcónaí, mar shompla chan úsáidfí "ceanna" i ndiaidh na n-uimhreach : féadtar "cheannaigh mé na ceanna ba deise" a ráidht ach déarfaí i gcónaí "trí cinn, ceithre cinn, srl", ní dóigh liom gur cheart "trí ceanna" a ráidht.
Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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James_murphy
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Username: James_murphy
Post Number: 462
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 08:14 pm: |
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A Lughaidh,
An ionann "seidh" agus "is eadh"?
Séamus Ó Murċaḋa
Inis fá réim i gcéin san Iarṫar tá
Dá ngoirid luċt léiġinn Tír Éireann fialṁar cáil
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3438
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 08:36 pm: |
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S ionann.
Deirtear "seidh" nó "seh" go minic i dTír Chonaill, in áit "sea" nó "seadh".
Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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Michael N. Mahar (Unregistered Guest)
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Hey Kidz, I enjoy the dialogues and information they disseminate in the forums. I am attempting to translate a poem by Ciaran Carson and I was hoping someone could help me tease out the meaning of these lines: Me a scuabadh, me a scaipeadh/ Go beal an dorais/ /Seidean beag amuigh. I apologize for the lack of fadas; I can not figure out how to tap into the fada stable. Thanks, Retro |
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