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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2010 (March-April) » Archive through April 15, 2010 » Aoninneach? « Previous Next »

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David_w
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 01:12 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá ar dtúis ann dhá roth mhóra leathana cloch, roth mór lasmuich agus an roth eile laistigh dé sin agus iad aoninneach.

I am having trouble finding aoninneach in a dictionary. I know it means "concentric" from the translation of PUL's Mo Sgéal Féin chapter 17.

Can anyone advise me what entry to look under in (any) dictionary?

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 01:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Cad atá faighte agat fé inneach?

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David_w
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 01:35 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Well, inneach as a noun is "weft", making me think that aoninneach could mean "of one weft". But the -each of aoninneach should be just an adjectival suffix and not part of the noun "inneach".

Domhnaillín, do you think "of one weft" makes sense. "Of a single piece"?

(Message edited by david_w on April 07, 2010)

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Seánw
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 03:01 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Inneach was originally a verbal noun. Ind + fige > indech > inneach.

I imagine it is aon + inneach, but I can't find any proof of that.

I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 03:49 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

On second thought, I think David's right: aon + inne + -ach is a more plausible derivation than aon + inneach. Ach níl aon ní i nDinneen ná de Bhaldraithe fé cheachtar desna fréamhfhoclaibh thuasluaite.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 05:59 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá "end, extremity, tip, top, edge" ag Ó Dónaill faoi inn.

If both wheels are of equal size, that might make sense.

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David_w
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 07:15 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Aonghus, I think it comes from the entry for inne in Ó Dónaill's dictionary - womb, centre etc. With the same centre = centring on the same point. This would make sense here.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 04:17 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I must have missed that reference when I was looking.... sounds sensible.



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