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Dmd
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Username: Dmd
Post Number: 57
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 06:26 am: |   
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A Chairde,
How would you write/say:
I have a sick head, self-inflicted
Ta tinneas cinn orm,.................?
Tá croi briste orm,-------------------?
N'fheadar an bhuil an fleiscín ceart!
le meas,
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Abigail
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Username: Abigail
Post Number: 1210
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 08:15 am: |
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"i ngeall orm féin", b'fhéidir.
nó "shaothraigh mé tinneas cinn dom féin."
Tá fáilte roimh chuile cheartú!
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Seánw
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Username: Seánw
Post Number: 479
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 09:22 am: |
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Define sick. Sick as in ill, or sick as in mad or crazy.
I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.
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Dmd
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Username: Dmd
Post Number: 58
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 12:03 pm: |
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Sick as in ill e.g. a sick head from too much alcohol! |
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Taidhgín
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Username: Taidhgín
Post Number: 663
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 01:13 pm: |
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Tá an phóit orm! A chonách sin orm féin. Mé fhéin is ciontaí.
Leigheas ar an bpóit deoch eile!
póit = a hangover from drink
a chonách sin orm féin = It serves me right.
Mé fhéin is ciontaí (< ciontach) = I am most to blame.
I am not sure if "Tá póit orm" or "tá an phóit orm" might be said. This is not something that anyone would readily admit to. |
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Taidhgín
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Username: Taidhgín
Post Number: 664
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 01:23 pm: |
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As for "Tá croí briste orm" with or without a fleiscín that would not be said. "Tá mo chroí cráite agat" might be said in anger to a child. "You have tormented my heart."
I am not saying "croíbhriste" as an adjective would not occur in poetry but I cannot think of any occasion where it was used. "croíbhriste" is not a noun and the structure "Tá [tinneas, mothúchán] orm" requires a noun. Tá fearg, brón, áthas, lúcháir orm etc. |
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Seánw
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Username: Seánw
Post Number: 482
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 03:09 pm: |
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A fun workaround  : Tá mo cheann nimhneach [nó tinneas cinn orm] mar bhí mé ar an asal aréir. Add: féinghearrtha, féindéanta may work ... (Message edited by seánw on February 27, 2010)
I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.
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Panu Höglund ar cuairt (Unregistered Guest)
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 12:50 pm: |
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Tá tinneas cinn orm a tharraing mé féin orm. |
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 06:28 pm: |
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Féindéanta looks like a calque from English. I always bear in mind Peadar Ua Laoghaire's comment that the word féinteagasg is not proper Irish - just a calque from English that he still felt was unnatural in Irish. Probably the same with most words or putative words beginning with féin- |
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Sineadw
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Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 200
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 10:36 pm: |
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'Is ormsa féin an locht' might work.
But I think the one with 'tarraing' is better.. sounds more negative and distressing. |
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Dmd
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Username: Dmd
Post Number: 59
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 06:39 am: |
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Go raibh maith agaibh go léir!
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Seánw
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Username: Seánw
Post Number: 486
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 01:12 pm: |
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quote:Féindéanta looks like a calque from English. Certainly they were calques! Just threw them out to stir the pot. If they're unnatural to Irish speakers, then they will die on their own. Since few adjectives prefix nouns, I would imagine that they still sound unnatural.
I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.
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Abigail
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Username: Abigail
Post Number: 1213
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 03:59 pm: |
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quote:A chonách sin orm féin. Mo cheol thú a Thaidhgín... sin focal a bhí uaim an lá cheana is nár fhéad mé a chuimhneamh air. Tá sé agam anois is nár fhága sé!
Tá fáilte roimh chuile cheartú!
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