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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2010 (January-February) » Archive through February 18, 2010 » Prepositional pronouns in the Munster dialect « Previous Next »

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Seamás91
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 03:41 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Do the prepositional pronouns differ anyway at all in the Canúint Mumhan in comparison to the other dialects? If they do could somebody please give a complete table of these?
Labharfad libh ar ball,
Go raibh maith agaibh.

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An_chilleasrach
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 10:50 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Have a look at Lars' site - http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/gram.htm. He gives regional variations at appropriate points.

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Seamás91
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 11:54 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ta eagla orm, ach ni raibh ceard a bhios ag lorg do. Can anyone else help?

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Seamás91
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 03:39 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

My problem is this, 'fé' is substituted for 'faoi' in the munster dialect. So would that mean that in the prepositional pronouns in the munster dialect would be as follows: fém, fét, fé, féithi, srl, or something along those lines?

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Abigail
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 04:39 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

No - you will hear "fém" for "faoi mo", but the prepositional pronoun is still "fúm."

Wait for lucht na ndea-leabhar len é seo a dhearbhú nó a cheartú as yet again I haven't my books to hand.

(Message edited by Abigail on February 16, 2010)

Tá fáilte roimh chuile cheartú!

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Crí
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 05:13 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In Munster :
fúm, fút, fé or sometimes féidh /f`e:g`/ (with him), fúithi, fúinn, fúibh, fúthu
fé+an(sing.)=fén, fé+na(pl.)=fésna, fé+a(his,her,their)=féna but fé+ár(our)=fé ár (according to "Gaeilge Chorca Dhuibhne" le D. Ó Sé).

Go mairidh ár nGaelainn slán!

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Seamás91
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 07:53 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

what about the other prepositional pronouns, ag, do, as, ar, srl?

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Seánw
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 01:07 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Lughaidh has a nice chart from his dictionary:

http://annexedicoirlfr.ifrance.com/pronprep.html

I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.

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Seamás91
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 01:33 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raidh mile maith agatsa i ndairire, a Shean.

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 06:41 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Fúthu should rather be spelt "fútha" in Munster since they pronounce /fu:hə/.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/



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