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Sineadw
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Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 177
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 01:48 pm: |   
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I saw this written in the new Foinse (not sure when, scribbled it down one day!) and I'm just wondering could you also say 'is beag an chiall' or do you always have to use the genitive after 'is beag'.. |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 9719
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:09 pm: |
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I'd like to see the whole sentence. I would consider those two as meaning different things. | Is beag céille atá aige | he has no sense | | Is beag an chiall atá le X a dhéanamh | there is no sense in doing X |
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Sineadw
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Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 182
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:13 pm: |
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It was: 'Is beag céille atá leis seo'
Pity I didn't write down the bit before it. |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 9720
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:22 pm: |
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| is beag céille atá leis seo | This doesn't make any sense |
That would be how I would say it, but I can't say the other is ungrammatical. |
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Sineadw
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Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 183
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:26 pm: |
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Ah once again thanks a mil Aonghus. Tá ciall leis sin :) |
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Scooby
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Username: Scooby
Post Number: 12
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 03:53 pm: |
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I would say 'is beag ciall atá leis seo'. I don't think the genitive should follow 'is beag'. |
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Sineadw
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Username: Sineadw
Post Number: 187
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 05:14 pm: |
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Copied and pasted from Christian Brothers Intense Version as I call it :)
Úsáidtear an t-alt ar lorg aidiachta faisnéisí in ainmní abairte aicme mar: is breá an lá
é; b'aoibhinn an aimsir í; is beag an rud is buaine ná an duine.
Ach más aidiacht éiginnte an fhaisnéis ní bhíonn an t-alt ar a lorg: is beag rud a fuair sé.
AN CHOPAIL & AN FHAISNÉIS AIDIACHTACH
16.20 Nuair a úsáidtear faisnéis aidiachtach leis an gcopail táthar ag faisniú cáilíocht áirithe
de chuid an ainmní: nach deas iad? ní fíor sin; is bréagach thú; nár cheart Pádraig (ceist
reitriciúil)? ba leor punt; is beag an rud is buaine ná an duine.
Úsáidtear na haidiachtaí éiginnte i múnlaí tábhachtacha copaileacha roimh ainmfhocal
coitianta gan an t-alt:is annamh (beag, fánach, iomaí, tearc) duine a thagann an treo seo; an
iomaí fear [atá] agat? is iomaí do leithéid a chabhródh liom; is iomaí sin duine a chonaic
mé.
Féach na difríochtaí brí agus múnla atá idir an dá abairt seo:
Is beag duine a rachadh isteach ann (= ní mórán a ...).
Is beag an duine a rachadh isteach ann (= ní fhéadfadh aon duine dul isteach ann ach duine beag).
Aidiacht éiginnte atá sa chéad abairt, agus aidiacht thuairisciúil sa dara ceann. |
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Seánw
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Username: Seánw
Post Number: 443
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 05:26 pm: |
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quote:is beag céille atá leis seo Is this influenced at all by beagchéillí.
I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.
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