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Na_comharsa
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

could you tell me what "the watering hole" is in irish, i think its "Poll na n'uisce" can anyone tell me for sure?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 12:15 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

An Pholl uisce.

(Message edited by aonghus on January 25, 2010)

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Taidhgín
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 12:58 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

an síbín?
Tigh bhean an leanna?
Teach an phortair?

an tobar?

Aonghus: meas tú an bhfuil an séimhiú sin ceart?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 12:59 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

Aonghus: meas tú an bhfuil an séimhiú sin ceart?



Níl mé cinnte. Ceist d'aos na leabhair.

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Na_comharsa
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 01:20 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

its a pub

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 01:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Well, do you want to stick with the metaphor, or go with one of Taihdgín's versions, which are more obvious?

Correction: It ought to be An Poll Uisce.

http://www.logainm.ie/?text=poll&placeID=1398711

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Na_comharsa
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 01:40 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

yeah An poll uisce is the water hole. i want watering i cant find that word.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:10 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

And the difference is?

If you look up "watering" in de Bhaldraithe you will see that it is worked around for the sense "to give animals a drink", e.g. Deoch a thabhairt do chapaill.

I suppose you could say "An Poll Óil" (The drinking hole)
or some such.

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Na_comharsa
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:24 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

what is the drinking spot?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:34 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

You could use

"Log an Óil" or "Spota an Óil"

log [ainmfhocal firinscneach den chéad díochlaonadh]
áit íseal, poll, clais; duibheagán (i log na hoíche).


or

spota [ainmfhocal firinscneach den cheathrú díochlaonadh]
marc nó ball beag; áit ar leith; paiste (spota grinn).

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Na_comharsa
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:42 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

thank

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Na_comharsa
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:43 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

thanks

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Taidhgín
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:46 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

look up "watering" on www.focal.ie

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Na_comharsa
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:51 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

i did and there is no match

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 03:02 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=watering

Indeed there isn't. Not an animal in sight!

Uisce faoi thalamh éigin, is léir!

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Brida
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Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 07:27 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I saw a pub once, on one of the Aran Islands, I think, called 'An Deochlann'. What a perfect name for a pub.

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Seánw
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Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 09:05 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

An poll uisce is the water hole. i want watering i cant find that word.



An Poll Uisce
An Láthair Uisce
An tÓrán Uisce
An Trach Uisce
An Trach Ólacháin
An Poll Ólacháin

Etc.

Lots of choices!

I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 09:15 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It's the subtle difference between H20 and the process of giving animals a drink that our neighbour is looking for.

But this is another example of there not being a 1:1 mapping between languages!

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Seánw
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Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 12:58 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I understood this when I posted, Aonghus, and recognize that some others may not get the humor intended. There is ambiguity in English as well. The terms which refer to animals mostly were given for humor, as say the An Deochlann pub conveys as well. Is a pub really a lann? Obviously (to me) there is a double meaning intended by lann (house & land). I was just offering some terms that might expand it beyond the literal "hole of water". Check this sign out for "The Watering Trough".

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2598/3960079392_1f32f2c232.jpg

I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.



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