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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2010 (January-February) » Archive through January 26, 2010 » Gaeilge Pronunciation « Previous Next »

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SamanthaR (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 02:54 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Could someone please tell me the correct pronunciation of the name Duibheasa?

I have searched around and found variances like:
Duh-vee-sah
Di-vay-sah
Duh-veesa

Also, is there a common nickname for Duibheasa?

It's for a book I am writing. Duinheasa is a young girl who was born in Foxford (Bellasea).

I'd appreciate the help!
Go raibh maith agat!
Samantha

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 10:43 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

All those alternative look wrong to me, since there is no accent over the e.

I'm not sure what the usual pronunciation would be in Mayo. As someone who learned Munster rules of pronunciation, I would be tempted to say "DWEE-suh", but I suspect this is a local peculiarity.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 10:47 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It isn't a common name! I've never heard of it, and it is not listed in Irish Names for Children by Patrick Woulfe.

It is listed in Ó Corráin and Maguire Irish Names - as popular in the 13th and 14th century.

Foxford is Béal Easa (mouth of the waterfall) in Irish, see here

http://www.logainm.ie/?text=foxford&placeID=34685

Someone else will hopefully weigh in with a (Mayo) pronunciation [for a variety of reasons, I don't do pronunciation]

If not, the speech synthesiser at http://www.abair.ie might help you.

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 11:54 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"DIV-uh-suh" in Donegal, I think.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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SamanthaR (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 03:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Thanks for all the responses so far!!

Yes, I wanted a rarer name because she was born in Foxford, Mayo in the late 1700s.

Aonghus - I used the speech synthesiser... so cool! It came out "duh-vee-sah," the way I originally assumed it was pronounced.

Thanks again!

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Curiousfinn
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 02:40 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

There's a Sanskrit word written "divasa" that has entered even Finnish as the word "taivas", for sky/Heaven (through "deivas" for "day" in a language I can't recall now) - or so I have read sometime in the past. Not sure about the pronunciation rule there, if it's anything close to "duibheasa". I this was true it would make for a great girl's name.

"Herra Harakka" and the other linguists may have better information.

Tine, siúil liom!

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Breandán
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 05:14 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Interestingly, the speech synthesiser at abair.ie comes up with the pronunciation duh-vee-sah but the phonemiciser (Fóinéimiú) at the same site produces the pronunciation Lughaidh gives above.

I would have expected: D(w)iv-ASS-uh or D(W)IV-uh-suh. Domhnaillín's pronunciation DWEE-suh also makes sense.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 10:01 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Du[i]bh" varies a lot in pronunciation. The name is unlikely to have been in the corpus - to say the least - so it will have been an approximation by the speech synthesiser.

As far as I know the two projects are slightly in parallel rather than interlocking, and both works in progress.

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Seánw
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

There's a Sanskrit word written "divasa" that has entered even Finnish as the word "taivas", for sky/Heaven ...



That root means bright, or shiny. Duibheasa means "dark beauty" as far as I can tell.

I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 12:27 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dark one [lady] of the waterfall



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