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Do_chinniúint
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Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 02:12 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I was going to add "mountain lion" to the list as soon as I heard back on it, but for anyone wanting to increase their animal vocab I just made these cards for myself. Mainly animals I see here on the farm in the country...and then some common zoo animals also.

Would love to make certain all correct?

the alligator...an t-ailigéadar
the ant.........an seangán
the ape.........an t-ápa
the bat.........an slacán
the bear........an béar
the beaver......an béabhar
the bee.........an bheach
the beetle......an chiaróg
the bird........an t-éan
the bull........an tarbh
the butterfly...an féileacán
the camel.......an camall
the cat.........an cat
the chicken.....an sicín
the cougar......an leon tsléibhe
the cow.........an bhó
the crab........an portán
the crocodile...an crogall
the deer........an fia
the dog.........an madra
the dolphin.....an dheilf
the donkey......an t-asal
the duck........an lacha
the eagle.......an t-iolar
the eel.........an eascann
the elephant....an eilifint
the fish........an t-iasc
the fly.........an chuileog
the fox.........an sionnach
the frog........an frog
the giraffe.....an sioráf
the goat........an gabhar
the goose.......an ghé
the guinea pig..an mhuc ghuine
the hamster.....an hamster
the hawk........an seabhac
the hippo.......an dobhareach
the horse.......an capall
the kangaroo....an cangarú
the lion........an leon
the lizard......an laghairt
the lobster.....an gliomach
the monkey......an moncaí
the mosquito....an muiscít
the mouse.......an luchóg
the octopus.....an t-ochtapas
the ostrich.....an ostrais
the otter.......an dobharchú
the owl.........an t-ulchabhán
the panther.....an pantar
the parrot......an pearóid
the pig.........an mhuc
the rabbit......an coinín
the raccoon.....an racún
the rat.........an francach
the rhino.......an srónbheannach
the scorpion....an scairp
the sea lion....an mór-rón
the seal........an rón
the shark.......an siorc
the sheep.......an chaora
the skunk.......an scúnc
the snake.......an nathair
the snail.......an seilde
the spider......an damhán
the squid.......an mháthair shúigh
the squirrel....an t-iora
the star fish...an chrasóg mhara
the swan........an eala
the tiger.......an tíogar
the toad........an bhuaf
the tortoise....an thoirtís
the turkey......an turcaí
the turtle......an turtar
the walrus......an rosualt
the whale.......an míol mór
the wolf........an faolchú

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 02:20 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

An deilf
An toirtís

no lenition on d, t s after the article... ;-)

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Do_chinniúint
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Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 03:02 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

oops...sorry good catch. GRMA

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Aonghus
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Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 03:49 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Focal also has alphabetical lists

http://www.focal.ie/Abc.aspx?lang=1&extent=bydomain&domain=3676&collection=103

The latin name I found for Mountain Lion was Felis Concolor, which Focal says is púma.

http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=Felis+concolor

(The "right" Irish name for an animal which never licved here is always going to be a matter of debate)

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Do_chinniúint
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Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 09:58 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Yeah, this is usually the breeding grounds for the "which is best" debate. In this particular case, were Irish doesn't have a word for it, and probably would never have came up with one on their own given they would never have met up with one of these, I really don't mind the borrowing from English or another language here.

As long as consideration is taken for the Irish phonetics and spelling...I wouldn't have a problem with it.

GRMA for the websites...I like that. Granted they are getting a little too detailed for what I am hoping to learn. I was just hoping to get a basic grasp of some of the animals I encounter here and at the zoo in Omaha. LOL

(Message edited by do_chinniúint on January 03, 2010)

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Seánw
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Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 01:04 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

... w[h]ere Irish doesn't have a word for it ...



Do_chinniúint,
There is a flip side to this. The lack of a strong Irish word, or even borrowing, can also give freedom, especially if you're writing is about North America. You can use leon sléibhte and that could work perfectly well and sometimes is a sign of a good writer. The readers in Ireland may have a question mark in their heads about it, but they probably have a similar one when they read mountain lion. This even happens in North America. I use mountain lion for this animal, but others have other terms. The terms like cougar and puma, before this post came up, generally convey no information to me except that it is some type of wild predatory cat. I only think you'd run into trouble with this freedom if Irish already used a term, and people would get confused. (Like if they used leon sléibhte for some cat that they had.)

I ndiaidh a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 01:25 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Leon sléibhe, rather than the plural sléibhte.

Níl aon leoin in Éirinn, ach tá an Cat Mara ann!

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Tommyoflaherty
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Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 02:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Quite a selection you have on that farm of yours Gavin. T

Fla

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Do_chinniúint
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Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 04:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

LOL...

Well, I live about 10 miles outside of a small town. And Thanks to the creek at the bottom of our hill, we get to see critters that most locals don't see on a regular basis. Which is usually not a good thing. The coons, skunks, and possums are often a pest here.

They love to help themselves to the feed, trash, and between the coons and foxes...I think our ducks, geese, and turks sleep with one eye always open...LOL

Actually...with exception of the zoo animals, I was amazed with the diversity of animals in my local area. I think if most people sit down and think about it...they will find that they also have a lot of critters to call good company.

Oh...and before I forget, I can add one more animal to the list. I just got an e-mail from a friend who is thinking of buying two emus. There was a farmer who tried a few of these birds a few years ago, but they kept getting out and caused more of a pain than they were worth...an ostrich have the smallest brain, but emus are pretty dang clever if you ask me.

So if you are interested, you can add:

an t-éamú

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Ormondo
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Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 05:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Níl sna focail "cougar/puma" ach aithris ar fhocail ó theangacha iasachta agus níl i "mountain lion" ach cur síos nó sainmhíniú lom.

"Puma/Kuguar/Berglöwe" atá sa Ghearmáinis, mar shampla - an cur chuige céanna.

Táim cinnte de go gceadódh Fionn mac Cumhaill "púma/cúgar/leon sléibhe" dá mbeadh sé fós ina bheatha.

Is geal leis an bhfiach dubh a ghearrcach féin.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 06:24 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Táimse cinnte go mbeadh eachtra breá le reic aige faoi.

"Caoilte agus an Leon Sléibhe", abair?

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Scooby
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 12:31 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I haven't read the thread carefully, but if not already mentioned, the word you have for 'bat' is for the sporting item only!

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Scooby
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 12:36 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

an hamstar
an seilide

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Is fíor dhuit.

The flying mammal is "sciathán leathair"

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Curiousfinn
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 01:05 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

an (t?)sáible

Tine, siúil liom!

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 01:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Céard é sin, a ChF?

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 01:18 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A Fhinn, "an sáible" san ainmneach agus "an tsáible" sa ghinideach.

Im' cheantarsa níl aon sáiblí, ach tá flúirse muscfhrancach!

(Message edited by Domhnaillín_Breac_na_dTruslóg on January 07, 2010)

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Curiousfinn
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 04:42 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"sciathán leathair"

Leather shield?

"Nahkhiir" atá ann in Eastóinis, "luch leathair".

Tine, siúil liom!

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 04:46 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Leather Wing

sciath = shield


Tá luch mar chuid d'ainm an sciatháin leathair i mórán teangacha.

(Fledermaus [de] mar shampla)

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 04:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

sciath "shield"
sciathán "wing"

Is fearr liom an téarma comhchiallach "bás dorcha".

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 04:49 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

Is fearr liom an téarma comhchiallach "bás dorcha".



Cá bhfuair tú é sin? Níor chuala riamh é. Ach murar feithid thú, níl baol ó sciathán leathair, bhfuil?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 04:50 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Muise, feicim go bhfuil scata ainm aige.

Bhí ialtóg cloiste agam cheana.

http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=bat

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An_chilleasrach
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Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 06:25 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá lagchuimhne agam ar ghearrscéal nó rud eigin i seanleabhar scoile dar teideal "An Sciathán Leathair". An gcuimhníonn éinne é?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 04:51 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Sílim go raibh rud éigin mar sin ar an gcúrsa próis fadó.

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Wee_falorie_man
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Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 11:45 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

ceann cait - (horned) owl

seilmide - snail

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Aonghus
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Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 11:52 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ulchabhán is the more generic name for an owl.

http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=owl

Scréachóg is a common name element for some owl types.

seilide and seilmide are alternatives.

http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=snail

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Wee_falorie_man
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Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:48 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Thanks for the links Aonghus. I noticed that they also list "cailleach oíche" as another way of saying owl - Is this commonly used or is it more a poetic name for an owl?

(Message edited by wee_falorie_man on January 08, 2010)

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Aonghus
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Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:55 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

The book from which the data was taken lists it as "in use" but I haven't heard it. But that is weak evidence, since I would have little need to discuss owls!

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 02:15 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Sciathán means "arm" in Donegal (and wing is eiteog there).

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Aonghus
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Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 03:03 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ní hamháin i nDún na nGall, ach úsáidtear don ball eitilte níos minice é. Úsáidim "sciathán" nuair atáim ag idirdhealú idir codanna na láimhe.

Aon tuairim agat cad a tugtar ar an sciathán leathair ó thuaidh?



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