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Danny2007
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Post Number: 455
Registered: 12-2007


Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 11:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Lughaidh,

Can you tell me how many sub dialects are covered by Wagner in his Linguistic Atlas?

I assume there are at least four. Cois Fhairrge, Ceantar na nOileán, Iorras Aithneach, and north Conamara (centred around Corr na Móna).

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Trigger
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Post Number: 459
Registered: 10-2007


Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 06:27 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Thats right, and the Aran Islands.

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 3283
Registered: 01-2005


Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 08:18 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Here is the list I made, for Co. Galway (but all these places are not in Connemara)

25; Kinvara; Ceathrú na Madara; p. Chinn Mhara?; Galway
26a; Careeny; Gabhal Rua?; p. na Beithí?; Galway
26b; Careeny; Cairthiní Beag; ; Galway
26c; Careeny; Cairthiní Beag; ; Galway
27; Lough Attorick; Mill Ghlas; Woodford; Galway
28; Sonnagh; Sonnagh; Cillí na Daoma?; Galway
29; Craughwell; Mannan Ard?; p. an Lábáin; Galway
30; Colmanstown; Colmanstown; p. Mhinligh; Galway
31; Newbridge; Bóchar Beannach; p. Cilleáin?; Galway
33; Camderry; Cam Bhéire?; Kilbegnet; Galway
34; Cashel; Cashel; Gleann na Madadh?; Galway
35; Ballyglunin; Baile na Lucaí; p. Chill an Riaim?; Galway
36; Annaghdown; Caisleán na Craoibhín?; p. Annaghdown; Galway
37a; Carnmore; an Pháirc Gharbh; p. Bhaile an Chláir; Galway
37b; Carnmore; an Pháirc Gharbh; p. Bhaile an Chláir; Galway
38; Angliham; Angliham (Gort an Chala?); p. an Chuisleán Gheairr; Galway
39; Moycullen; Laughil; Moycullen; Galway
40a; Loughan Beg (Cois Fhairrge); Loughanbeg; p. an Chnoic; Galway
40b; Loughan Beg (Cois Fhairrge); An Teach Mór; p. an Chnoic; Galway
41; Inisheer; Baile an Orama?; p. Árann; Galway
42a; Inishmaan; Ceathrú an Teampaill; p. Árann; Galway
42b; Inishmaan; Ceathrú an Leisín; p. Árann; Galway
42c; Inishmaan; Baile an Mhúir; p. Árann; Galway
42d; Inishmaan; ?; p. Árann; Galway
42e; Inishmaan; ?; p. Árann; Galway
43; an Cheathrú Rua; An Cheathrú Rua; An Cheathrú Rua; Galway
43a; Gorumna Island; Baile na Cille; ; Galway
44; Rosmuck; Rosmuck; Rosmuck; Galway
45; Glentrasna; Glentrasna; p. Chill Choimín; Galway
46; Carna; Coilín; Carna; Galway
47; Emlaghmore; Dohala; Iorras Mór; Galway
48; Letterfrack; Leitir Beag; ?; Galway
49; Cornamona; An Charraig?; p. Ruis?; Galway
50; Lough Nafooey; ; p. Ruis?; Galway

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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cailin (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 01:55 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

What are the differences between the sub dialects? I've spent some time in ceantar na n-oileáin and it'd be interesting to know!

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 3287
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 02:52 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

You won't find everything in the atlas, and anyway even between 2 speakers from the same village you'll find differences...

The differences between the subdialects concern vocabulary, pronunciation and grammar. But when the closer the dialects are (geographically), the more similar they are.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/



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