Can anyone think of any examples for regular monosyllabic verbs, beginning with a vowel, and ending with a slender consonant?

I couldn't find any on my own, and now I am wondering if somehow Irish has skipped this construction?

(Message edited by do_chinniúint on September 29, 2009)

Off the top of my head, these two seem to fit your criteria:

éist (listen)
ith (eat)

If you want more, you could use the focal.ie advanced search page to search for Irish verbs that begin with a vowel and end with a slender vowel followed by a consonant, and then scan the results to see of any monosyllabic verbs come up. Except that I've done that for you just now so you don't have to:

eis (exist - a bizarre one, granted)
oil (educate, train - related to the noun 'oiliúint')
oir (fit, suit - related to the adjective 'oiriúnach')

There may be more in the language that neither I not focal.ie knows about.

Mbm, an dearfá *"ithfaidh sé" i ndáiríre?

Ní déarfainn, ar ór ná airgead. "Íosfaidh" a déarfainn.

Hmm,

éist (listen)
ith (eat)


These were the only two that I could come up with, but they are irregular verbs.

And thank you for doing the search, that was really something you didn't have to do. I would have been happy to have done the work.

eis, oil, and oir

This is great. At least I know are some, and maybe more out there.

The reason I am curious is that I have fallen in love with Donna Wong's "A Learner's Guide to Irish" introduction and groupings for Irish verbs. Up until now I have been sticking with Murchú's Briathra Na Gaeilge, which does something very similar in its introduction, but doesn't go into this level of detail.

These are not new conjugations or anything like that. She is not trying to create anything new. In fact, she doesn't even bother with separation of 1st and 2nd grouping, and insteads concentrates on actually conjugating the verbs instead. I think she felt it is possible to give better model verbs and be more discriptive of Irish verbs for students to find and follow.

And she does give example words for each group.

Regual Verbs

Monosyllabic verb with broad final consonant.
Monosyllabic verb with slender final consonant and -ith.
Monosyllabic verb with initial vowel.
Monosyllabic verb with initial f.
Monosyllabic verb with one or fewer short vowels + -aigh.
Monosyllabic verb with long slender vowel + igh.
Monosyllabic verb with one or fewer short vowels + -igh.
Monosyllabic verb with final -ígh.
Monosyllabic verb with with long broad vowel + -igh.
Monosyllabic verb with final -eoigh.

Polysyllabic verb with final -aigh.
Polysyllabic verb with final -igh.
Polysyllabic verb with initial vowel.
Polysyllabic verb with initial f.

Polysyllabic verb with long vowel + -il.
Polysyllabic verb with long vowel + -in.
Polysyllabic verb with final -is.

Syncopating verb with final -il.
Syncopating verb with final -in.
Syncopating verb with final -ir.
Syncopating verb with final -is.

Irregular verbs...

Compare this to Briathra Na Gaeilge:

1. Verbs with stems of one syllable.
2. Verbs with stems of more than one syllable, final áil.
3. A numer of verbs of more than syllable.

1. Verbs with one or more syllables with final aigh.
2. Syncopated verbs with final il, in, ir, is.
3. A number of polysyllabic verbs with are not syncopated

In their defense they are talking about verbs fall into the 1st or 2nd conjugation, however, they do not really talk about how to conjugate verbs. Instead on the pages that follow are charts of verbs shown in all their conjugations with "similar" verbs on the bottom. A person is left guessing sometimes. They lump verbs like tóg, bris, and dóigh together without commment of their different spellings and expect for learners to intuitively figure it out.

A Chinniúint, in what way is éist conjugated irregularly?

Oops, not éist...I copy and pasted and didn't realize I copied both words.

That looks like a really detailed and well thought out system, the one by Donna Wong. I really should take a good look at her book.