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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Username: Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh

Post Number: 655
Registered: 09-2006


Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 01:12 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Okay, another basic question that is freaking driving me bananas.

Is maith liom a bheith ag cócaireacht.

What form of the verb cócaráil is cócaireacht? It's like a verbal noun, but it's not *the* verbal noun.

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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Post Number: 656
Registered: 09-2006


Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 01:14 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

And are there rules for how to form this whatever-it-is?

GRMA!

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Breandán
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Post Number: 301
Registered: 12-2008


Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 01:44 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It's the noun for "cooking, cookery" derived from cócaire "cook (i.e. a person who cooks)". The -(e)acht ending is used to form nouns for actions performed by people of certain occupations and is derived from the name for that occupation in a similar manner to English "-ship" (e.g., "seamanship", "penmanship", etc.) or "-y" (e.g., "cookery", "pottery", "archery", etc.).

Here it is being used as a verbal noun. It is not the standard form which would be cócaráil, but it may be a dialect form, probably Connemara.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 8779
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 07:44 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

We discussed this [at great length] before.

The verb Cócaráil is rarely used, but cócaireacht is well established as a practice. Ó Dónaill defines it as (The act of) cooking.

Eisceacht eile atá ann, A Dhomhnaill!



cócaire [ainmfhocal firinscneach den cheathrú díochlaonadh]
duine a ullmhaíonn bia le hithe.

Foirmeacha Dírithe :
cócaireacht [ainmfhocal baininscneach den tríú díochlaonadh]

(An Foclóir Beag doesn't list cócaráil - because it is rare!)

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Aonghus
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Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 08:30 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post


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Pádraig
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Post Number: 820
Registered: 09-2004


Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 09:58 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Is maith liomsa a bheith ag foghlaimeoireacht, múinteoireacht, sagartacht, muctach, etc. Learnership, teachery, priestery, piggery. Absurd, but I'll bet the absurd process of confabulation will result in my never forgetting it.

Is ait an mac an saol agus fáilte roimh cheartúcháin.



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