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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2009 (July-August) » Archive through July 29, 2009 » OT: 'An Bord Snip Nua' and Irish « Previous Next »

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Danny2007
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Post Number: 343
Registered: 12-2007


Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:30 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

http://gaelport.com/sonrai-nuachta?NewsItemID=2617
http://gaelport.com/sonrai-nuachta?NewsItemID=2613

I was reading the headlines on Gaelport.com today and noticed that Irish organisations could be in for a big hit if the expenditure review group's proposals are accepted. In short, if all the proposals of 'An Bord Snip Nua' were put into action, it would result in:

- potential €5.3bn in savings
- 17,300 public service job cuts
- a 5% drop in social welfare.

That's my understanding, anyway.

Included in the recommendations:

- The closure of the Department of Community, Rural & Gaeltacht Affairs
- Reduction in State funding for TG4
- Reduction in Gaeltacht grants
- the enterprise functions of Údarás na Gaeltachta being taken over by Enterprise Ireland (EI).

What are the chances that this might actually happen??

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Ormondo
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Post Number: 448
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 08:47 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

What are the chances that this might actually happen??

Of course cut-backs are necessary: no argument about that. Cut-backs, yes: complete destruction, no!

I was listening to RnaG over the last two days and people are stunned beyond belief, so much so that they tend to forget that these are still PROPOSALS which have yet to be decided upon. I say that for the sake of people not resigning completely to dispair at this stage. The only ray of hope is that not all of the proposals will be translated into action.

The pernicious aspect of these proposals is that the very fact that they were made in this comprehensively destructive way puts the existence per se, and even its right to exist, of the Irish language on the defensive. Any step-back from this lethal concoction will be seen as a major concession, or even favour - and will have many people in Indo-world etc. up in arms. The Irish language is being put in an arena where it will be seen to be competing against the "the food in the child's mouth"...

I know these people on An Bord Snip Nua have a job to do, and a difficult job too, but I have had dealings with people like these and in reality they can have but a cursory insight into the workings of any of the affected organizations in most cases. Their image is that of economic prophets-cum-wizards but really - as they say in German - they only cook with water like everyone else. It has emerged that they have been operating with incorrect figures in some instances - which probably isn't even their fault because they have to operate on the basis that all the preliminary work is spoon-fed to them - but they are basically outsiders to most of those entities concerning which they are making such fateful decisions and sometimes to an outsider it might seem sensible, for example, to effect a cost-saving amalgamation of, say, the Cork Master Butchers Association with the College of Surgeons because they appear to be doing much the same thing...

But I sincerely hope that this is not another manifestation of siezing upon an opportunity to act out a long fostered disregard for and antipathy towards the Irish language. After all, the Gaeltachts are the only areas left in Ireland which are not 95%-plus British-culture dominant; if I continued along that train of thought I could very well come up with another cost cutting proposal - and one that might not suit the let-them-eat-cake faction who purport to be running the show and for whom the Irish state has been a provider of rivers of milk and lakes of honey.

Beirigí bua!

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 8524
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 09:18 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

The difficulty is that all the Governement ministers here are saying that this is a menu of options.

That means that those who lobby loudest will be least hit.

There are a couple of months of hard lobbying ahead of us - Conradh na Gaeilge is mustering for it.

But fighting for intangibles which are easily painted as the preserve of a minority/elite is a lot harder than staving off cuts to hospital beds and social welfare.

Beirimis bua! ach ní gan dua a bheirfear é.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 8526
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 09:47 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

This article is good:
http://www.gaelport.com/sonrai-nuachta?NewsItemID=2620

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On first impressions it seems that rural Ireland may be asked to shoulder a considerable burden. Substantial cuts in a struggling farm sector, the closure of smaller schools and half of our garda stations, the end of rural transport schemes as well as the closure of the of the Department of Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs. This seems to strike at the fabric of communities rather than confront excess.



The Gaeltacht is part of rural Ireland; and the mandarins in Merrion Street and Marlborough St have never been good to rural Ireland.

We'll see.

There is also some question of a strained relationship between Brian Cowen & Éamon Ó Cuív. That will not help.

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Mbm
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Post Number: 228
Registered: 01-2006


Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 02:10 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I have a tangental question. Where does the nickname "bord snip" come from, and why is this one called "nua"?

Mo bhlag sa seanchló Gaelach:
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Aonghus
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Post Number: 8528
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 06:43 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Toisc go raibh a leithéid ann cheana, sna 1980í, le cuid den chliar céanna.

Bhíodh an Bord seo agus siúd ann, agus bhaist duine éigin "An Bord Snip" ar an gcoiste úd fadó.

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Mbm
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 01-2006


Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 09:02 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tuigim anois. Go raibh maith agat.

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 02:21 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

it is an ironic title given

snip is obviously an english word and bord is an irish word that every irish person knows because of its use in many organizations names.



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