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Ggn
Member Username: Ggn
Post Number: 55 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 09:16 am: |
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Doing a bit of research into the expression 'How are you?' in Gaelic. Does anyone have a form that they think that I may not have? I haven't much from Clare. Obviously Conas tá tú (et. varia), Cén chaoi a bhfuil tú and Cad é mar atá tú are the most common in Ireland. 'Cionnas at(h)á t(h)ú' appearrs in Man, Ireland and Scotland and appears in most older sources. |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3055 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 11:24 am: |
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In Holmer's book about the dialects of Clare, I found "Conas athá tu?" /kənəs əhaː tə/ from someone from Cloghaunsavaun. I'll be able to give more information when I get my copy of the linguistic atlas (the volume about Munster dialects)... Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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Ggn
Member Username: Ggn
Post Number: 56 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 11:29 am: |
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I have everything from the Altas in. Haddent checked Holmers clare book, but it is ultimately a variant on 'Cionnas atá tú'. |
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Ggn
Member Username: Ggn
Post Number: 57 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 11:44 am: |
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Got another one, Baile Dubh, Co. Kerry. Conas tá tú but also conas taíonn tú. |
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Wee_falorie_man
Member Username: Wee_falorie_man
Post Number: 194 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 12:39 pm: |
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When I was in Cork and Kerry a couple o' years ago I heard: "Conas tánn tú?" and also "Conas taoi?" |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3056 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 02:33 pm: |
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I forgot "how are you?" is in the forst volume of the atlas. So in Clare they say (said): in Kilbaha : Cunas tá tu? / Cunas thá tu? (tu pronounced as [tə]. in Doolin or Fisherstreet and Fanore : Cé an bhail athá ort? Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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Breandán
Member Username: Breandán
Post Number: 277 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 05:18 pm: |
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In Scotland: Ciamar a tha thu? |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 3057 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 07:47 pm: |
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Or "D è man a tha thu?" in Lewis :-) Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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Ggn
Member Username: Ggn
Post Number: 58 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 10:51 am: |
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"Cé an bhail athá ort" ~Sin an chineál rud atá i gceist agam. Titeann sé sin isteach sa 'atá ort' contruction. That normally is the secondary way of say the expression. There is also in Ireland 'cuma/dóigh/caoi/gleas atá ort. |
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Antóin (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 05:48 pm: |
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In Munster also: Conas tá agat? |
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Ggn
Member Username: Ggn
Post Number: 59 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 06:27 am: |
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Antóin, Is that just from your own experience? - have seen a few references on internet, good stuff. Is this relatively new? Any references folks. (Message edited by GGN on July 16, 2009) |
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Ggn
Member Username: Ggn
Post Number: 60 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 08:19 am: |
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Dé cor athá tú / a bhfuil tú? Kilkenny forms, but both are of secondary usage. |
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(Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 07:09 am: |
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"Cionnas at(h)á t(h)ú" I never knew this form was in Scotland. Dyou have any sources? |
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Ggn
Member Username: Ggn
Post Number: 61 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 08:49 am: |
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It is found in Dùthaich MhicAoidh. My Lewis informants assure me they knew it and I understand it is found in Wester Ross. - its in Dwelly as well. (Message edited by GGN on July 16, 2009) |
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Liam_mac_g
Member Username: Liam_mac_g
Post Number: 9 Registered: 04-2009
| Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 09:08 am: |
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Cé hé bhfuil tú?(spelling?) in Erris but it could be a quick way of saying cén chaoi a bhfuil tu? |
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Ggn
Member Username: Ggn
Post Number: 62 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 09:20 am: |
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It is. |
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Antóin (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 09:46 am: |
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Quote: Antóin, Is that just from your own experience? - have seen a few references on internet, good stuff. Is this relatively new? Any references folks. Unquote. I's in use but I can't say how common it is or if it's a new expression. Other variants, even if not strictly "how are you", are: Conas (a)tá an saol (agat)? Conas (a)tá cúrsaí? |
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Ggn
Member Username: Ggn
Post Number: 66 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 08:56 am: |
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GRMA Antóin, I am also interested in those sorts of variants. |
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