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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2009 (July-August) » Archive through July 29, 2009 » "How are you?" « Previous Next »

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Ggn
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Post Number: 55
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 09:16 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Doing a bit of research into the expression 'How are you?' in Gaelic.

Does anyone have a form that they think that I may not have?

I haven't much from Clare.

Obviously Conas tá tú (et. varia), Cén chaoi a bhfuil tú and Cad é mar atá tú are the most common in Ireland.

'Cionnas at(h)á t(h)ú' appearrs in Man, Ireland and Scotland and appears in most older sources.

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 11:24 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In Holmer's book about the dialects of Clare, I found "Conas athá tu?"
/kənəs əhaː tə/
from someone from Cloghaunsavaun.

I'll be able to give more information when I get my copy of the linguistic atlas (the volume about Munster dialects)...

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Ggn
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 11:29 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I have everything from the Altas in.

Haddent checked Holmers clare book, but it is ultimately a variant on 'Cionnas atá tú'.

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Ggn
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 11:44 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Got another one, Baile Dubh, Co. Kerry.

Conas tá tú but also conas taíonn tú.

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Wee_falorie_man
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 12:39 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

When I was in Cork and Kerry a couple o' years ago I heard:

"Conas tánn tú?" and also "Conas taoi?"

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 02:33 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I forgot "how are you?" is in the forst volume of the atlas. So in Clare they say (said):

in Kilbaha : Cunas tá tu? / Cunas thá tu? (tu pronounced as [tə].
in Doolin or Fisherstreet and Fanore : Cé an bhail athá ort?

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Breandán
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 05:18 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In Scotland: Ciamar a tha thu?

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 07:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Or "D è man a tha thu?" in Lewis :-)

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Ggn
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Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 10:51 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Cé an bhail athá ort"

~Sin an chineál rud atá i gceist agam.

Titeann sé sin isteach sa 'atá ort' contruction.

That normally is the secondary way of say the expression.

There is also in Ireland 'cuma/dóigh/caoi/gleas atá ort.

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Antóin (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 05:48 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In Munster also:

Conas tá agat?

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Ggn
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 06:27 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Antóin,

Is that just from your own experience?

- have seen a few references on internet, good stuff.

Is this relatively new? Any references folks.

(Message edited by GGN on July 16, 2009)

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Ggn
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 08:19 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dé cor athá tú / a bhfuil tú?

Kilkenny forms, but both are of secondary usage.

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 07:09 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Cionnas at(h)á t(h)ú"

I never knew this form was in Scotland.

Dyou have any sources?

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Ggn
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 08:49 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It is found in Dùthaich MhicAoidh.

My Lewis informants assure me they knew it and I understand it is found in Wester Ross.

- its in Dwelly as well.

(Message edited by GGN on July 16, 2009)

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Liam_mac_g
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 09:08 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Cé hé bhfuil tú?(spelling?) in Erris but it could be a quick way of saying cén chaoi a bhfuil tu?

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Ggn
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 09:20 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It is.

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Antóin (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 09:46 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Quote: Antóin,

Is that just from your own experience?

- have seen a few references on internet, good stuff.

Is this relatively new? Any references folks.
Unquote.

I's in use but I can't say how common it is or if it's a new expression.

Other variants, even if not strictly "how are you", are:

Conas (a)tá an saol (agat)?

Conas (a)tá cúrsaí?

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Ggn
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 08:56 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

GRMA Antóin,

I am also interested in those sorts of variants.



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