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Student
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 12:06 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

This just in from Gaelport.com:

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The BBC apologised last week, after a series of complaints were received from the public, due to the actions of a political correspondent during the victory speech of newly elected MEP Bairbre de Brún.

It was a historic event for Sinn Féin candidate, Bairbre de Brún, who topped the polls and was elected as an MEP. Ms. de Brún began her victory speech in Irish, and at this point, the speech which was being broadcast live on BBC was lowered, and the political correspondent covering the story, siad he would continue to speak, in English, until she began speaking in English



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N_iall
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 05:25 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

And rightly they should apologize as its not the correspondents place to make such a decision, though to some degree I see his point.

If Sinn Fein (or anyone else) try to brow beat the public into accepting the language then they are just going to alienate the language. They will turn it into a us versus them situation. However, if she was just giving an introduction to her speech as Gaeilge and at some point (fairly early on) was going to speak to where the majority could understand her then she doesn't hurt the cause but helps people realize that the language is something that's there and there's nothing wrong with that.

It would make no sense to give a whole speech as Gaeilge just to make a point and just becasues you can (which im not sure what the point would be) That would be dumb.

Now if there are exceptions for speakers of Pakistan, Nigerian, Hindi, Welsh, or whatever language other MEP's can speak in then IRish should be given the same respect.

NOthing wrong with seeking equality but only if other languages are given the same equality on that same forum.

The language needs to be seen in a positive light and promoted as such and not used for political brow beating by politicians on either side of whatever aisle they happen to be on. Sinn Fein, especially Sinn Fein (they are seen as extreme already by some) need to thread carefully in this arena.

The MEP has other venues and outlets where she can use her language skills on a day to day basis.

and of course the correspondent doesn't need to make executive decisions becasue he/she does'nt like a particular way of doing things. He's supposed to report the news not editoralize it (not his job!!!) He must be watching too much CNN or something. Why can't correspondents all over the world report the news like they are supposed to??? I dont want their opinions. this is such a trend.
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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 10:55 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ms. de Brún began her victory speech in Irish, and at this point, the speech which was being broadcast live on BBC was lowered, and the political correspondent covering the story, siad he would continue to speak, in English, until she began speaking in English.

Political correspondent? Political agent is more accurate. Reflects awfully on the BBC.

The speech itself is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYFnCT7tcI8

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Danny2007
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 10:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It's possible that the correspondent thought their mic wasn't on and were talking back to the director who was communicating with them through their earpiece.

Depending on who you talk to, Sinn Féin are the worst thing to come along for Irish in Northern Ireland in a long time, or the best...

Unlike some SF types, de Brún seems genuinely committed.

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Danny2007
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 10:50 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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The speech itself is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYFnCT7tcI8


Classy boos there from the unionist contingent. Silly. Clearly the correspondent was aware that he was on-air, so forget the earlier comment.

Her voice isn't particularly pleasant (especially when speaking Irish), but that doesn't win you votes either way.

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Conchubhar1
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Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 11:53 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

well, we will see how the unionists boo when sinn féin become the largest party in a gen election and call for a referendum on reunification

then all of ireland will do as it has always done, be fair and kind to all or at least if fianna fáil are still in power be unfair to all equaly (haha)

seriously tho - in a united ireland we wouldnt boo them or speak over while they speak their dialect (''language'')

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Danny2007
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Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 12:15 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Sinn Féin received about 26% of votes cast in the last Assembly elections. But yeah, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sinn Féin become the single largest party in the next general election. Unlike in the Republic where their vote has stagnated, SF's share of the vote seems to be going from strength to strength in the North. They've also benefited from unionist vote splitting (DUP, UUP, TUV...even the Union-friendly Alliance Party) and unionist voter apathy. Turnout is almost always lower in predominantly unionist areas. On the other hand, SF is the only overtly mainstream republican party in NI. The SDLP is full of people who are of a nationalist bent, but are quite content for NI to remain in the UK.

I don't even think anyone in SF truely believes a united Ireland is just around the corner. It will likely take a number of generations. That why I don't think there will be any calls for a referendum on unification any time soon.

But that's all beside the point. The unionists in that sound clip were totally classless. Even more disappointing to see a hardline DUP man appointed Minister of Culture. He has had some pretty outrageous things to say about Irish in the past.

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