http://www.rte.ie/rnag/igceartlarnandaoine.html

I found this site on Radio na Gaeltachta.Its a great resource for the Erris Dialect. Listen to the second from the bottom. John "The Admiral" Ó Maolfhabhail is the speaker. Gan dabht tá an blás aige! I'm wondering, do you think this dialect is closer to Donegal or Connemara? Mise le meas.

http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2008/pc/pod-v-180208-15m07s-igceartlarnandaoine.mp3

Although some of the words sound like Ulster Irish, I think generally he sounds more like Connamara Irish.
Either that or I understand Ulster Irish better than I used to :-)


(Message edited by brídmhór on June 20, 2009)

A Bhríd -- Just after 3:20, does he say "whatever", or is that an Irish word I've misheard?

(Message edited by Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh on June 20, 2009)

Céard é seo ar chonaic mé amuigh ar an tsráid ad ar ball, feicear dom gur Brontanas éicint a fuair tú ó Hitler a déir tú

ó sea, sin bloc a bhfuair muid ar bhád beag a tháinig i dtír aimsir an chogaidh.

Tá tú ag déanamh amach gur bád Gearamánach a bhí ann, meastú.

Ah, ní hea, Bád Sasanach ach is sé an Gearamánach a lig síos í.

Sé an Gearamanach a chuir go …

Sea a chuir go'n tóin í, mar a dearfá,

Ar thárla mórán bádh anois siar ón gcósta seo an t-am sin meastú?

I think you mean "mar a dearfá" - "Like you would say"
used in Irish similar to "you know" in English.

Although some of the words sound like Ulster Irish, I think generally he sounds more like Connamara Irish.
Either that or I understand Ulster Irish better than I used to :-)
Bríd

You must be hanging around a bad crowd lol, fuuny thing i also now understand Connamara Irish a bit better lol

There was a big migration of refugees from Ulster to North Mayo in the late 18th Century.

Seo leathanach ón Idirlíon ina thaobh: http://www.answers.com/topic/ulster-1

: "as Catholics began to purchase land and involve themselves in the linen trade (activities which previously had involved many onerous restrictions). Protestants, including Presbyterians, who in some parts of the province had come to identify with the Catholic community, used violence to intimidate Catholics who tried to enter the linen trade. Estimates suggest that up to 7000 Catholics suffered expulsion from Ulster during this violence. Many of them settled in northern Connacht. These refugees' linguistic influence still survives in the dialects of Irish spoken in Mayo, which have many similarities to Ulster Irish not found elsewhere in Connacht."

Tá cuimhne sa bhéaloideas ar an eachtra is dóigh liom.

Mayo Irish shares a lot of vocabulary with Donegal Irish and with Conamara at the same time, I think its like a mixture between Donegal and Conamara. For example they say ''bomaite'' instead of nóimead in Mayo and thats the Donegal version. Tourmakeady Irish would be more Conamara type though.

Hmmm...my grandmother( a native of Fál Mór) would say nóimead as opposed to bomaite. Perhaps bomaite is more of a Ceathrú thaidgh word.

Hmmm ... A Liam_mac_g, Cén chaoi a dtaitníonn Bóthar an Chongó leat? An dtéann tú síos chuig an Dabhaigh Lá an Logha? Tobar Dheirbhle?

Cá háit ar tógadh tú féin? Ar mhair an Ghaeilge anuas chugatsa sa teaghlach? Cois teallaigh?

Taidhgín, taitníonn an Congó go mór liom, níl aon radhrac níos aoibhinn ná thíos ansin in aice le Tóin na hOltaí. Bhí mé ag an Tobar inniú mar a tharlíonn sé.Lá an logha? Bíonn muid í Beal an Mhuirthead. Tógadh mé í Béal an Mhuirthead.Tá gaeilge againn sa teach. Cá as tú fhein?

Is maith liom do fhreagra. Tugaim cuairt ar an gceantar sin go minic. Bím i gcónaí á rá go bhfuil i bhfad níos mó Gaeilge in Iorras ná mar a shíleann daoine. As Baile Átha Cliath mé féin.

Táim ag cur suntais sa logainm sin agat: Tóin na hOltaí. An bhfuil tuairim ar bith agat i dtaobh brí an dara fhocail sa logainm sin? Níl a fhios agam féin a dhath faoi ach is fada mé ag iarraidh a bhrí a aimsiú.

Hmmmm.....My grandmother, my mother, and all my aunties and uncles would say Nóimead. They are all native speakers. Perhaps Bomaite is used in Ceathrú thaidgh because my grandparents are from both Fál Mór and Inis gé.

Gan dabht tá ceart agat. Tá gaeilge laidir in Each Léim agus Ceathru Thaidgh , ach faraor níl an dheis thabhairt dúinn cén é a labhairt.Níl fhios agam cad is brí le "hOltaí" ach is fuaim blasta é ar aon chaoi:) An bearla atá ar ná Surgeview.

"Hmmmm.....My grandmother, my mother, and all my aunties and uncles would say Nóimead. They are all native speakers. Perhaps Bomaite is used in Ceathrú thaidgh because my grandparents are from both Fál Mór and Inis gé."

Mise a bhí ann ansin. Rinné mé dearmad chun a logáil isteach.

Nach 'Tamhnach na hUltaighe' nó rud cosúil leis an t-ainm ar an áit sin?

Tá sé rud cinnte mar sin ceart go leor.Fuair mé an litriú thuas as an leabhar le Éamonn Mhac an Fhailigh ach tá an litriú aisteach ar fad ann.

'Tamhain na hUltaigh' atá acu ar chomharthaí san áit ach céard is brí le 'tamhain'?

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x49/dranoel_bucket/tamhain_na_hultaigh.jpg

Níl fhios agam an é an focal céanna atá i gceist, ach ciallaíonn "Tamhnach" fertile cultivated spot.

Ciallaíonn "Tamhan" trunk/stem.

Is Ulster Irish more like Scottish Gaelic than more Southern Dialects?

Would it be easier for an Donegal person to speak with a Scottish Gael than with a Kerry Gael?

quote:

Is Ulster Irish more like Scottish Gaelic than more Southern Dialects?

Than the southern dialects are like Scottish Gaelic, yes. Than it is like the southern dialects, no.

As far as communication: these days, the Donegal man and the Kerryman would both be educated in a common (written) standard, and modify their speech toward that if necessary.

(It isn't usually necessary at all though - gabhaimis uilig buíochas leis an ngluaisteán, an ardchathair agus Raidió na Gaeltachta! Go to the Oireachtas and you'll hear many an interdialectal conversation: full speed, full-on dialect, full understanding.)

There is no such common standard between Ulster Irish and Scottish Gaelic, so unless one of them had actually studied the other's language they would be working solely on the two languages' mutual intelligibility. Think of a Spaniard and an Italian who have never studied each other's languages, and you'll get the picture. Communication is certainly possible, but it is harder than between speakers of two Italian dialects, no matter how divergent - because the latter will always have standard Italian to fall back on.