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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2009 (May-June) » Archive through May 16, 2009 » Teicneolaíocht « Previous Next »

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 04:56 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

tiomántán crua fíorúila

agus

O.S'eanna



would they make sense for - virtual hard drive and the plural of operating systems

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Ormondo
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Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 06:59 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

tiomántán crua fíorúil - there doesn't seem to be an approved version of that particular combination, but if there were one I think it's obvious it would be that. There's no need to inflect the second adjective.

O.S'eanna - same comment as above, more or less. In any case, why not just use "córais oibriúcháin"?

Is geal leis an bhfiach dubh a ghearrcach féin.

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 71
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Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 07:50 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

what do you mean by there is no need to inflect


thanks

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Breandán
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Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 07:53 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

That just means that you don't need to add the "a" to the end of "fíorúil".

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 74
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Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 06:16 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

is it not tuiseal ginideach?

what is inflect in irish - just so i know the grammar term if i ever see it again

grma!

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Ormondo
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Post Number: 365
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Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 10:20 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

inflect = infhilleadh

infhilleadh [ainm briathartha][ainmfhocal firinscneach]
athrú ar dheireadh focail chun a fheidhm ghramadúil a léiriú.

Plug "infhilleadh" in here http://www.csis.ul.ie/focloir/default.HTM
and you will see how inflect is inflected.

Hmm... Paradacsa an Infhillidh ...sounds as if Bertrand Russell could be around.

Is geal leis an bhfiach dubh a ghearrcach féin.

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Ormondo
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Post Number: 366
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Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

is it not tuiseal ginideach?

Now I see what you're getting at!

"Tiomántán crua fíorúil" is a noun followed by two adjectives. An adjective doesn't take the genitive after a noun unless the noun itself is in the genitive case.

You are thinking about when a noun follows a noun in an expression like "bank statement" - which is "ráiteas bainc". In this kind of expression the Irish language does not allow the second noun to be just left standing there in the nominative; it has to be tied back to the first noun by putting it into the genitive - "statement of bank".

(Message edited by ormondo on May 02, 2009)

Is geal leis an bhfiach dubh a ghearrcach féin.

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 80
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Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 01:28 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

so ''crua'' doesnt have to be in the tuiseal ginideach?

its not there, but should it be?



thanks!!



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