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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2009 (May-June) » Archive through May 16, 2009 » Copula in the future tense « Previous Next »

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 04:34 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

can you say

''beidh sé iris'' - it will be a magazine

is that right?

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Post Number: 527
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Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 04:56 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Beidh" is a form of the stative verb , not the copula (which isn't even classed as a full verb and has no future form). Your only choice is to use a periphrastic expression with such as "Iris is ea a bheidh ann".

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James_murphy
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Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 05:20 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

You could simply say "Beidh sé ina iris" (no copula).

The future tense of the copula fell out of use long ago.
Is was "Budh" rel. "bhus".

Séamus Ó Murċaḋa

Inis fá réim i gcéin san Iarṫar tá
Dá ngoirid luċt léiġinn Tír Éireann fialṁar cáil

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 58
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Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 05:41 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

thanks

that makes more sense

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Seant
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Post Number: 46
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Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 06:08 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

is budh used anywhere in the Gaeltacht?

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 59
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Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 06:21 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

never saw the word ''budh'' before

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Lars
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Post Number: 322
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Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 10:07 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Future form of copula today is "is".
That means that "is" can have future meaning (e.g. "Is lá nua é amárach")
But usually "beidh i" + possessive ("will be in my/his") could be used.

Lars

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 60
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Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 05:38 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Iris ginearálta a beidh ann faoi . ..

an bhfuil sé sin ceart?

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 2843
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Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 08:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Iris ghinearálta a bheidh ann, faoi...
(don't forget to lenite the word that will follow "faoi"...)

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 06:10 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

B'fhearr liom "maidir le" nó "ag trácht air" nó "ag plé le" seachas "faoi"

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Suaimhneas
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Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 07:10 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

B'fhearr liom "maidir le" nó "ag trácht air" nó "ag plé le" seachas "faoi"



Cén fath, a Aonghuis? An saghas Béarlachas é "faoi" sa comhthéacs seo?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 08:20 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá drogall orm a rá glan amach gur Béarlachas atá ann. Ach mothaím amhrasach faoi.

San cás seo is "on the subject of" atá i gceist seachas "about".

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 61
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Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 08:00 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

well about/on the subject of

one in the same really

thanks

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 2847
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Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 08:30 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Aye. I wonder why it would be an Anglicism. You'd say that in all languages...

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 62
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Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 08:46 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

pretty much ye

well thanks everyone!

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Breandán
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Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 07:27 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I think it is more a question of register:

"faoi" in casual speech; and
"maidir le" nó "ag trácht air" nó "ag plé le" in formal writing.

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Ormondo
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 07:45 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Breithiúnas Solaimh!

Is geal leis an bhfiach dubh a ghearrcach féin.

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Conchubhar1
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 07:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

ah go raibh maith agat



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