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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2009 (March- April) » Archive through April 01, 2009 » Future tense pronunciation « Previous Next »

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Heidski
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Username: Heidski

Post Number: 11
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 03:36 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In the future tense, is the second syllable in verbs such as "glanfaidh", mostly pronounced like "kaidh"? or, like "caithfidh" "kidh"?

Thanks

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 2749
Registered: 01-2005


Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 04:01 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I don't see where your k sound comes from.

Normally the f of the future and conditional endings is pronounced as an h (in Ulster, Connachta and in most forms of Munster).

Glanfaidh > "glan-hee" (Ulster), "glan-higg" (Munster), "glan-huh" (Connachta), but before pronouns as mé, tú, sé, sí, muid, sibh, siad... -faidh and -fidh are always pronounced "huh".

Caithfidh > "kah-hee", "kah-higg" & "kah-huh" (as above).

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Pádraig
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Post Number: 793
Registered: 09-2004


Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 05:25 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

go bhfeicfidh mé might sound as though there were a K in there

Is ait an mac an saol agus fáilte roimh cheartúcháin.

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Lars
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Username: Lars

Post Number: 311
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 05:43 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

The h sound can be silent so there's no difference between feicfidh and feicidh.

H is always silent following b, bh, d, g, mh. But h devoices them to "p", "f", "t", "c", "f".

Further more:
In "fan go bhfeicfidh mé" it is likely that it is in fact "go bhfeicidh mé" or in Standard spelling "go bhfeice mé": It is present subjunctive rather than indicative future.

Lars

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Heidski
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Username: Heidski

Post Number: 12
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 07:26 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Yes, "h". Sorry, I need to slow down. Thanks much.

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Bearn
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Username: Bearn

Post Number: 1084
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 12:29 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In the West, l, n, r and ng can be devoiced or partially devoiced too, ex: dúnha mé etc



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