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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2009 (March- April) » Archive through March 03, 2009 » Genitive after chun when talking about movement « Previous Next »

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Bearn
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Username: Bearn

Post Number: 1043
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 08:28 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I heard that the genitive is not used in sentances like this:

"Táím ag dul chun mo thí", but rather is suspended. Is this so?

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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 2712
Registered: 01-2005


Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 10:51 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Well, I would have said "táim a' dul abhaile"...

But normally, you'd have the genitive in such sentences.
Tá sé a' dul chu(i)n na cathrach...

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Bearn
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Post Number: 1046
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 08:24 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I thought so, but they were talking on IGTF a few days ago about chun not requiring the genitive when used in the sense of movement towards, and that was the first time I heard of it

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Abigail
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Post Number: 1022
Registered: 06-2006


Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 10:20 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Are you sure that was what they were saying? I haven't seen the discussion, but it seems odd, as the actual situation is very nearly the opposite. "Chun" used directionally does take the genitive; "chun" meaning "in order to" does not.

e.g. Rachaidh sé chun a hoifige chun labhairt léi.

(Message edited by Abigail on February 19, 2009)

Tá fáilte roimh chuile cheartú!

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Heidski
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 05:01 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

What is IGTF?

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Student
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Username: Student

Post Number: 74
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 06:54 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

IGTF = Irish Gaelic Translator Forum http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/

(I think that's right)



(Message edited by student on February 22, 2009)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/buntuscainte-allparts/

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Bearn
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Username: Bearn

Post Number: 1050
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 09:38 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Thanks Abagail, good answer!



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