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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2009 (March- April) » Archive through March 03, 2009 » Irish Hymns « Previous Next »

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Faberm
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Username: Faberm

Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 11:50 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Does anyone know where i can get the Irish words for "Be thou my vision". I would like to learn it in Gaeilge to sing in my church. I am also interested in some of the other classic Irish hymns.

Any thought?
Faber MacMhaolain

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Smac_muirí
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Username: Smac_muirí

Post Number: 281
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:50 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dia duit a Fhaber.

Tá dalladh ábhair faoi ar Ghúgal - there's a fair whack of stuff on Google for you to spend some time delving into. Is mór ag daoine an t-iomann seo, is cosúil. Níl anseo ach blaisín de.

http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G400018/

http://www.daltai.com/discus/messages/13510/15182.html?1137615673

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7hiEWc1F-8

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Faberm
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Username: Faberm

Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 07:28 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

muire:

Go raibh maith agat! I tried quite often on google, but it's been a bit of a needle in a haystack. I really appreciate you helping me. Grammar question. Why did you put an "h" before the a in my name? I'm new to gaeilge and don't know all the rules yet. Faber has a 'long A" like the word "hay". Thanks for the encouragement.

Later,
Fhaber?

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Breandán
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Username: Breandán

Post Number: 155
Registered: 12-2008


Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 07:50 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Irish has a vocative case, which you use when you "call" someone.

Smac_muiri's name is Seosamh. When talking about him in Irish you would use Seosamh, but when calling to him, as you do in a greeting, his name becomes a Sheosaimh adding a vocative particle a, leniting the first consonant, and making the last consonant slender. Similarly, Breandán becomes a Bhreandáin.

For female names (and foreign names) only the lenition occurs, not the final slenderization. Siobhán becomes a Shiobhán.

At the end of a letter, you are only stating who you are, not calling to yourself, so you wouldn't use the vocative there.

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Faberm
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Username: Faberm

Post Number: 6
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 09:33 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Bhreandain! (in the vocative)

Unless I am schizophrenic and calling out to my inner self then I suppose I must use the "h". Go raibh maith agat, my scholastic friend.

Faber

Ps: If I remember we used the vocative very little in Latin. Only in such things as "Oh muse! Tell us a tell" ,etc.



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