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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2009 (January- February) » Archive through February 02, 2009 » Archive through February 15, 2009 » Devoicing of final stop consonants « Previous Next »

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Bearn
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Username: Bearn

Post Number: 1027
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 09:12 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

This tends to happen in Irish (Nollaig, Nollaic) and in Hibero-English (grand, grant), but does it happen all the time, for example 'mo ghasúr beag', would beag be a k with no aspiration? It seems that I am saying it that way.

Anyway, it's useful if you are trying to speak Korean, if you know what I mean

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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 2701
Registered: 01-2005


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 09:53 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It's the rule in Scottish Gaelic, however it looks like it happens only in a few words in Irish. For example, several words that end in -(a)ig (Nollaig, reilig, Gaeilg, thainig...)

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Bearn
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Post Number: 1028
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 10:52 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I think it can happen for d at the end of words in some Mayo, but I'll have to check later. I'm doing statistics now...

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Domhnaillín_breac_na_dtruslóg
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Post Number: 419
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 12:20 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

This is a very limited phenomenon. It only affects final /g(')/ after an unstressed vowel. It's also not a feature of southern Irish (although there are few Munster words where final /ng(')/ becomes /k(')/, e.g. tarraic for tarraing).



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